Calls are growing for the UN Security Council to be reformed after the US became the only member to use its veto power to block a Gaza ceasefire resolution, a move welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The UN chief says he will keep pushing for peace.

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    Nothing changed on the UNSC when Russia vetoed the resolution to leave Ukraine.

    I’m not educated enough to say which is a “worse” violation of the principles the UN stands for, but I’ll go out on a limb and say nothing will change this time, either.

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      Yes, the whole idea of countries being able to veto UN resolutions are leading to exactly this, Russia vetoing all resolutions condemning their aggression in Ukraine and the US vetoing all resolutions concerning Israel.

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        I’m not sure how a resolution condemning anything is helpful, and I don’t know why Israel and Hamas need the UN for a cease fire.

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          The “resolution” the UN needs to come to here, in my opinion, is to put the whole area (Israel and Palestine) under UN control until something equitable can be worked out.

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            UN control is notorious for not working out well, and liking children too much.

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              Not working out well compared to what’s happening now? And you think children are being protected from anything now?

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                No, of course not. There is just a very poor reputation for UN Peace keeping forces, so giving them martial law in one of the most contested places in the world might not end any better.

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      I’m not educated enough to say which is a “worse” violation of the principles the UN stands for, but I’ll go out on a limb and say nothing will change this time, either.

      Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is fighting a terrorist group. Russia is worse.

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      Genocide is obviously worse than annexation. One just wants the land, the other wants to kill everyone on it too. Israel is far more evil than Russia.

      That said nothing will change indeed.

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    The problem in this case is depending on the security council to act on an issue it isn’t designed to address.

    The main purpose of the UN is to prevent global war, and the Security Council is the primary way in which that goal is achieved.

    In that context, the P5’s veto power makes sense. It prevents resolutions pitting the world against one of the superpowers that can sustain that kind of war.

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      I mean, same. The ability of certain blocs to railroad the UN is obscene. We should protect our veto tho

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        We should protect our veto

        The countries that currently have a veto make less sense the way the world is developing.

        France and the UK have a veto, but Germany doesn’t? China has a veto but India doesn’t?

        I get that it’s based on historic disputes after the war, but it doesn’t fit the current world well.

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          Because of “one nation one vote,” it is trivially easy for the more hardcore Muslim bloc or authoritarian nations to shove things through that should absolutely not be shoved through.

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            And basing it off population would essentially give China and India the power to vote themselves whatever they wanted. It’s the US legislative problem all over again and do we really want one world government in the end?

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      It’s less a council of nations who actively keep the world secure, but moreso a council to keep the world secure from those nations. The security council is there so the world’s most dangerous countries don’t just go to war, and it makes them maintain a dialogue.

      It’s unfortunately functioning as needed. The vetoes may piss others off, but it keeps them at the table. The ability to veto anything is a great incentive to stick around.

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    How are they supposed to cater to the MIC if some random bunch of countries can cut off their markets like that?

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    Israel only exists in its current form because the advocate for the original UN plan was assassinated by a zionist terrorist. Israel was born an enemy of the UN.