• Zephorah@discuss.online
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    2 days ago

    They use facial recognition on us while we are not allowed to see their faces.

    These guys need de-masking.

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      14 hours ago

      Eh, I’m fine with them wearing masks. I’m not fine with them breaking the law and not being accountable. If they wear masks (or even if they don’t), they need to be ready to show ID and recite their badge number.

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        No, they are law enforcement and should be readily identifiable the community they serve. Including their face. Also being masked makes it harder for the people they’re interacting with to understand what they’re saying. They lose all the non-verbal communication that comes from the face. Them being masked has absolutely zero upside to the public.

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          Every officer has a badge number that uniquely identifies then, and they are legally required to provide that information. When filing a complaint or a lawsuit, you’ll provide their name and badge number. If they refuse, you provide as much information as you can (area, time of day, type of vehicle, vehicle number, other officers and badge numbers involved, etc) so they can track the officer down.

          I don’t know how ICE works specifically, but many police departments require their officers to carry business cards with that information and hand them out upon request.

          Civilians have a right to verify that the people involved are actually officers and have a right to identify individual offices to report misconduct.

          I don’t care if officers wear masks, I only care that they can be uniquely identified.

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            48 minutes ago

            Have you ever seen an example of an ICE agent sharing a badge number on video from this year?

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              Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

              Have you seen an instance where a citizen or legal immigrant calmly asked for name and badge number and was refused?

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      23 hours ago

      With their mask-wearing they’re practically advertising their methods. We should take the clue. Everyone still has their COVID masks, right?

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          6 hours ago

          Facial recognition can use nose bridge characteristics, eye distance, eye angle, eye color, etc.

          Gait detection can also fingerprint.

          Document everything and there will be accountability.

          If possible, use a zoom lens and get closeups of their eyes. They are unique signatures.

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        2 days ago

        We will never get there while they are anonymous. The path to prison starts with de-masking.

        You can’t prosecute what has no identification.

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          Every single one of them has a timecard they’re punching with a name, collective punishment against the entire agency should be on the table.

          Even those sitting back behind a desk pushing paperwork are enabling the thugs in the streets.

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            Again though, until you connect their actions on the street, to a face, prosecution will never be possible.

            The need unmasking, on the street.

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                  Not all foreigners are criminals. But all members of a gang are gang members.

                  Isn’t it illegal in US, to be a member of an organization that has an obviously criminal purpose and/or obviously criminal methods?