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It depends on how hard you push the envelope. The closer you get to doing something no one has ever done before, the more likely you are to be in your own.
Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.
Lol this applies to so many things. Maybe there’s some prestige to doing something for the first time, but really there were probably a dozen people that contemplated it and decided against it for good reasons.
Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.
As a pentester I approve this message
“Ink is dry. Clicky thing doesn’t work. Fail.”
I still have to look up basic things even when I’m doing that, sadly.
Things like “how do I reverse an array?” Will always be in my Google history because I can’t remember “.reverse” exists.
Could I reimplement “.reverse” or just read the docs for an array? Yes. Will I? Never.
I feel you, my problem is that I switch between languages too much. I’m learning rust right now as a hobby, but I’m technically a frontend dev with years of experience in angular and react, and a couple months ago I have been put on a legacy rails project, which we’re rewriting for Angular x Java stack (thankfully my roommate is a Java backend dev, he’s been a lot of help) and on top of this I maintain my Cyberpunk 2077 mods written in lua, c++ and redscript (swift-like).
Send help.
How do I do thing that I do every day, but in this language I’m using today
Modding is definitely a nightmare though. One day I’m writing the latest python. The next I’m looking at some C library that was published half a decade before I was born and is for some reason deep in the bowels of the game engine I’m modding
I’m old enough that when I was in school, teachers were telling us that we’d never have calculators in our pockets wherever we’d go.
I’m that old, too. Can you imagine a student back then saying, “I’ll have a calculator, flashlight, camera, video recorder, music collection, and games to pass the times I have to wait on others.”
“Oh yeah and it’s also a phone”
“Oh yeah and it’s also a computer that’s more powerful than any computer you’ve ever laid eyes on that has access to an unimaginable wealth of human knowledge via a wireless connection to the Internet.”
What the fuck is an Internet?
Tubes bruh
I listened recently to somebody on a podcast saying that only psychos or close family would dial you in this day and age… And I kinda agree.
Or medical providers, professional contacts, service providers …
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I’m only 27 and I was lucky enough to hear that one, no Wikipedia and no Google.
Wikipedia was started in 2001, and Google in 1998. Who was saying this to you when you were 2?
I was told this, too, but when I got to Functions and Analytical Geometry, they started suggesting calculators. Now kids have laptops, gees.
Thats a stupid statement in any year after the “pocket calculator” was available in the 70s
Not really. The first ones were quite expensive, and it was uncommon to have one on your person at all times like we now do with smartphones.
It’s even more stupid when it’s the same class that required the purchase of a TI-85 to complete the course.
Googling does become a hell of a lot easier if you know what the concept you’re looking for is called.
I find myself going to ChatGPT for this stuff now.
“I’m trying to do something like [concept]. What is that called and can you give me an example”
Usually I get my results faster and easier than Google.
be careful using it as your only source of truth, even more so when you don’t know what you’re searching for exactly
If it spits out the wrong syntax my compiler will tell me immediately.
While I never had it happen, it could give you wrong command line switches that do damage. For example, when I asked how I could list volumes attached to an AWS instance, it gave me a “modify-volume” command instead of “describe-volume” command. Thankfully, I caught that before I cut and paste it.
Oh yes. With that sort of thing better double check each time.
had a similar problem searching for gcloud commands
You can ask it for source now with browser integration. Previously the browser extension was a separate model with gpt3.5 which was pretty bad, now it’s just integrated into gp4. It works a million times better and it’s great that it doesn’t break the flow of the conversation.
I had an emailed a question that I didn’t really know where to go with, so I asked Copilot to answer the email factually. Sent that email with a note of ai origin, but it was close enough and got us into right track
I’ve made it two decades in IT and related fields by searching for answers using Google. I accidentally took my laziness, love of automation, and ability to Google and became an SRE. Then I accidentally became a senior software engineer because the director on that side of the house liked my initiative and was sure my skills would translate. I protested but got a substantial bump to do it.
I’m failing upwards by abusing stack overflow and search engines.
Have you tried Microsoft’s Bing Chat / Copilot?
Yep. I’ve got company access to GitHub Copilot, a personal subscription to ChatGPT, and I use Bing Copilot.
Bing and ChatGPT have a lot of utility overlap. Those things don’t do my job for me but they do generate initial ideas and double check my code. I also use GPT as my rubber duck that kind of talks back. I literally tell it to be a rubber duck and pretend to know nothing, then chat with it. It’s pretty great for that. Better than the bear that sits on my desk, but not as fun to look at.
Those are the newest tools in my arsenal of “Make computers do my job and rake in the paycheck”.
I ask ChatGPT to roleplay as my 90s sitcom programming teachers Chip Bytefield, makes me giggle a lot more when I use it for ‘poor mans’ peer programming :-). Gonna try your idea too, sound fun!
I literally made money on a contract this year doing something I’d never even done. Thank you google. Love it
You never did it, but still made money for claiming that you had?
Must be a government contract
I did do this for web dev for a government contract. I got brought on for mobile optimizations but ended up doing full UI/UX design and marketing copy with no experience. All through their shitty in house WYSIWYG. $60/hr for a full year lol.
Nah, business.
Assume they meant “previously”
If they meant it, they’d have written it.
I can at least agree with the last line.
Don’t use google.
Use stackoverflow directly.
Ask the question on Lemmy!
A meme programming language would be cool. I can’t find one in this list:
https://esolangs.org/wiki/Joke_language_list
Nah, use Kagi.
Too bad Google search sucks now.
As someone who worked in tech support and a sys admin role, yes, and thank you. I would say 90% of all issues and problems I had were either solved or pointed in the right direction since 2006, the year I started.
I’ll do you one better. I’ve learned that in the absence of online information for a bug or fault, that I’m most likely attempting something that is better solved another way. Like, nobody does it like the harebrained thing I just invented, so it’s just me and everyone else with a (different) working solution.
Googling problems certainly helps but you still need enough knowledge to define the problem, Google it, and implement the solution.
I get the impression that a lot of posted solutions are from people who actually spoke to high level tech support for various hardware/software because how else would they know things like what obscure registry key with a very arbitrary name to add?
That’s a big part people don’t understand is you need to know enough about your problem to google the correct terms and find what you need. Googling itself is a learned skill.
This is so true. That’s why there’s no shame in using Google or Duckduckgo or even Chatgpt. You have to know enough to phrase the right question, know how to filter the right answer, and then use it.
I can Google a Chinese dictionary, but that won’t make me fluent in Chinese.
teachers dont say that
“When will you ever walk around with a calculator in your pockets!?”
Just don’t google google. No laughing matter. You could break the internet.
Google search results have become so bad i barely use it today. Its even better to use chatgpt. You have to take every answer with a grain of salt but usually it can give you a few options and give you resources to work with. Google search sucks ass. The amount of times i do NOT find what im searching for is way too high
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Your teacher was at least right about not using Google. Use literally whatever else
Im full time IT, a huge chunk of my job was learned through google. My current position looked incredibly different before we had phones and could research everything on the fly. I feel bad for tech’s who didn’t have access to research tools like we do now.
I work in controls and I couldn’t imagine how life was working with allen bradley stuff pre internet. there’s a manual for everything
Well, for once it was far smaller code base and significantly simpler. Better optimized though since hardware was very limited. Middleware nightmare we are currently living in is no joke. Soon we’ll have to have search engine locally indexing stuff because code grew so big. People just include everything without thinking. Yea sure pull entire web browser for your note taking app because they were too lazy to learn few calls to UI library.
Searching does help, but hey, you have to know what to search for and then how to apply the findings.
