I took the effort to split every episode S1-S3 in davinchi
Personally, I don’t care enough. Mostly my kids watch SpongeBob, and I can tell when vaguely paying attention as they watch it that I’ve seen every episode in seasons 1-3 (the only seasons I bothered to load) multiple times, which would specifically have been when I was a kid watching live TV. And half the time it’s on shuffle anyways so the order doesn’t matter at all
Edit to add: not sure if the issues people are describing are Plex specific but Jellyfin required zero manual effort when I injested the rips. All episodes have correct metadata (as two parters, so for example I have “S1E10-11 Pizza Delivery / Home Sweet Pineapple” as a single episode)
I am too much of a lerfectionist (metadata) to not care. :(
Edit:
Thing is, not every release respects the aired or the DVD-order that TVDB uses.
So you might have some episode which deviates from the current order and suddenly it doesnt work anymore.
My demons are all Doctor Who. I had it mostly straight in plaques and when I moved over to jelly fin, nothing was right.
jellyfin?
I thought I had downloaded bad releases and the episodes were messy…glad to see is not just me having trouble to organize sponge Bob to have episode preview right
The worst I’ve experienced so far is Panty And Stocking S2. Here’s a copy paste of what I explained to someone using my plex asking why it was so fucked.
E01 is a single episode
E02 and E03 are one episode in the west and on japanese streaming(E02), but it airs on TV as two episodes in japan
E04, E05, E06 are also one episode in the west and jp streaming(E03), but airs on TV as three episodes in japan
E07, E08, E09 are also one episode in the west and jp streaming(E04), but airs on TV as three episodes in japan
E10, E11, E12, are also one episode in the west and jp streaming(E05), but airs on TV as three episodes in japan
E13 is a single episode, but it’s episode 13 for TV broadcast, and 6 for streaming…
E14 and E15 are also one episode in the west and jp streaming(E07), but airs on TV as two episodes in japan
I don’t see the problem. If the files are named properly, software like sonarr will have no problem organising it. You just name the file S02E4-E6 etc.
The main issue is automation. Now it’s not a problem now that theXEM has stuff properly scene mapped, especially since I use proper private trackers.
The numbering is still a fucking mess though, and the fact that different index websites have different rules makes it really annoying.
That is indeed the right way to do it, unfortunately Plex doesn’t handle it well. It’ll show all the episodes separately, but each one plays the entire file (fair, it doesn’t know for sure where the breaks are, but could be done better), and watching the whole thing marks only the one you selected as watched, so you have to mark all the other “episodes” as watched manually (this is annoying, if it knows you watched the whole file, it should know that you’ve watched all the episodes it covers).
Usually if an episode is a 2 parter in one file, I’ll just name it for part 1 since you’d watch them together anyway, but for cartoons the two parts are usually entirely unrelated, so it really only works properly if the file’s split. It’d be better if the interface at least showed that a range of episodes are combined so you could, say, start it and know that the episode you want needs to be scrubbed through to find it, and also if it marked them all as played when you watch the whole thing.
Oh god, I love the anime but yeah I can understand that their super loosey-goosey style of episodes would be p bad if you wanted super detailed organizing. The place I’ve been watching them just groups the content into a single episode, since they effectively are broadcast as one single piece, just with (potentially) multiple chapters.
I’m so glad I don’t catalog my downloaded stuff.
I recently switched to using shoko to handle scanning/metadata etc instead of hama/ass and it’s been working pretty well.
My main issue is that I use Sonarr which uses tvdb as backend.
If an alternative to sonarr existed that could also integrate with Overseerr I’d be on that instantly, but sadly there is nothing like that.
Having to manually handle shows my friends and family want to watch us not happening.
If an alternative to sonarr existed
Flexget, Medusa
Overseerr
Ombi
The *arr stack is an abomination.
Having to manually handle shows my friends and family want to watch us not happening.
Your providing a free service, right?.. Dont forget to enjoy it yourself. Unless you serve 100 “friends” like everyone else. Then enjoy the money.
Flexget, Medusa
Neither of these have a backend that would improve on sonarr for Anime. I assumed it was obvious with the context that I meant one that used something like AniDB as a backend for anime.
Ombi
I don’t like ombi, it’s always been jank af for me. (also I use jellyseer not overseer to be fair)
The *arr stack is an abomination.
100% facts.
Your providing a free service, right?.. Dont forget to enjoy it yourself. Unless you serve 100 “friends” like everyone else. Then enjoy the money.
Ofc it’s a free service strictly for friends and family, people who profit from piracy are cunts and should fuck right off.
Edit: huh, so medusa does support using AniDB as a backend. I seem to remember it didn’t or that there was some issue with it.
Wasn’t obvious as I only saw thetvdb and don’t watch anime. This isn’t a unique issue for anime though. It’s an ancient problem at this point and without a simple solution.
Edit: huh, so medusa does support using AniDB as a backend. I seem to remember it didn’t or that there was some issue with it.
Perhaps it was added later.
Oh yeah for sure, the issue with airing, vs dvd, vs streaming, vs etc etc order and what is “right” is terrible.
But it’s actually kinda solved with anime, everyone in the scene and such just uses AniDB and that’s all that matters. Sonarr tries to solve the terribleness of thetvdb by using theXEM, but it should just use AniDB as the backend for anime and be done with it.
Yeah shoko which I mentioned uses anidb and tmdb but that only handles the metadata not acquisition
Yeah I’m too picky about the releases I grab to use any of the *arr stuff
Did you mean Jellyfin?
I know Lemmy is obsessed with Jellyfin, but alot of us have lifetime memberships to Plex, and will switch when hell freezes over.
Lemmy is obsessed with (F)OSS. But strangely when it comes to Plex/Jellyfin it’s not as important due to financial decisions from years ago.
And users here are usually *But my Plex :c"
I didn’t have to pay for Jellyfin, I think you got scammed.
Nah, I bought it years ago, and have enjoyed the experience for the better part of a decade.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not shitting on jellyfin. But Plex is just the superior experience. I’ve used jellyfin alongside Plex for a couple years and while it’s very useful for sharing content I don’t want my family to see in my Plex libraries. It just doesn’t have the polish that Plex has. There’s definitely potential, and I look forward to where it goes as the project matures. Like all companies, Plex will goto shit eventually, we all know it. The past couple of months have brought annoying changes and I expect them to continue to enshittify the service. But until that time comes I will continue to prefer Plex.
Wait until you see what they did to the Roku UI.
So Jellyfin… How hard is it to migrate from Plex?
Wait until you see what they did to the Roku UI.
What about it? Genuinely… I’ve been using Rokus longer than Plex, what’s the issue with the Roku version?
There’s a new Plex UI that they pushed to Android a few months ago that breaks everything, removes options and customizability, requires extra unintuitive actions to get to any self-hosted libraries, and pushes Plex’s Live TV and other junk into prominent UI positions, as I assume the investors and MBAs demanded.
It was released and universally criticized. So Plex’s team thought long and hard about that user feedback - ok, ok, sorry, I couldn’t make it without laughing. They changed nothing and pushed forward and now it hit Roku, with no way to decline or roll back.
Curious is this is something that is forced on non members. Plex will die the moment they abuse their members.
I’m a Plex Pass user and we cannot opt out on Roku devices. On Android I was able to roll back the app, since we can sideload old versions and turn off updates.
Interesting. Mine stuff is Apple TVs and I can pin libraries and unpin the defaults.
I have some of those defaults on but I confirmed I can still unpin all of them. On my devices it’s a column of three dots next to each tab.
Only ones I cannot unpin are Search and Home. Home is just a carousel for each of my pinned sources. Which differs on each device.
I rarely use the Home tab but it sounds like that is where people have the most complaints.
I use discover on one my TVs for finding new content. Told plex I have every service and then use their curated lists to watchlist content that is automatically pulled in via radarr or sonarr. If on pin it, it disappears from the home tab.
I also have a pin on live tv because someone wanted to watch local sports so I bought some used tuner thing to play around with it. The live tv interface is weird but home does respect the pin vs unpinned status.
I also noticed there are difference depending on if it’s your library or someone else’s and if the person is in the “Plex Home” a different concept than the Home tab.
I think given more time Jellyfin will likely surpass plex, it’s just not quite there yet. The plex interface is not intuitive. And there is no sign they can fix it.
Most people don’t have the comfort level to play with the options. I’ve had to walk multiple family members through pinning and unpinning each time they’ve gotten a new device.
I honestly haven’t opened the android app for awhile. But I just did and the content from my server was right there on load. Near the bottom was trailers and things from Apple TV. I had to scroll pretty far down to see this and if anything it gave me an overview of what was coming up so I could add them to radarr.
I see no Plex content, I have it disabled on my account. So if it was there I’d be pretty annoyed, but it wasn’t. So whatever.
They are clearly making a shift to bury the user’s libraries to the profit of their monetised content.
I guess they consider that our lifetime pass isn’t enough money anymore.
Enshitification is here, and I’m pretty sure it’s on it’s way to every other platform’s UIs.
So yeah, I guess it’s time to figure out how Jellyfin works.
It took me just a few minutes to set up. 4 folders, TV, Videos, Movies, Music
It would take me more than a few minutes to set up remote access VPN-less, Arr stack and Riven/Zurg to it…
But hey, as a Plex Pass lifetime user Jellyfin still looks like a good second option.
Sorry, did you mean a lifetime membership to Jellyfin? Because I don’t think there is such a thing…
The lifetime membership to Jellyfin is on Github in the form of a GPL license and the source code. I’ve got a lifetime membership to Jellyfin and it didn’t cost me a dime.
Jellyfin, unfortunately failed the spouse test when I last tried last year.
Besides, I don’t think for this particular case it would help much, they both pull their data from the same places iirc
Erst vor kurzem gewechselt. Geht schon gut, diese Geleefloße
I (partially) blame tvdb for this mess. SpongeBob has every story listed as a separate episode, but good luck finding any source that doesn’t bundle these up.
Meanwhile, the list for Kaguya just bundles all stories aired together in a single episode (thankfully).
Thing os: Many companies and countries have different orderd releases.
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I raise you multi-language content or a mixed Australian/US-Broadcast Mythbusters collection 😐
And I raise you Pokémon. Holy mother of fuck that’s messed up. Some episodes switched around for foreign distribution, some removed, and two seasons put into one, making the entire ordering one season and three episodes off. Had to manually edit nearly everything after Sonarr tagged them because Sonarr used the UK tvdb ordering iirc (the UK removed a couple episodes) but my source used Japan (scene) and Emby used US tvdb. Something like that
Feast your eyes on this shitshow (use desktop mode if on mobile)
Wait until you have to match foreign to english naming to match the release name.
I did that for the first 3 seasons of a dvd pack I ordered and ripped to get the dub iny language (and the 2 rips on trackers were of a too low quality)Feast your eyes on this shitshow (use desktop mode if on mobile)
Ouch, my condolences.
It’s fascinating that it took me longer to scroll through that than most people have or ever will spend on watching the show.
Just give up and get streamlined mythbusters. Easier to watch anyway.
What’s the difference?
Sounds like a fan cut release
Futurama is also a pain to organize.
Because of the movies split into episodes?
I have the French dub, which has a very different broadcast order.
S03E12 in French might be S02E22 in English, while S03E13 is part one of a special episode (so… S00E04, p1).
No one had published a conversion guide yet,so I ended up playing each file up through the title credits, to determine the new watch order.
Same with Kitchen Nightmares (Gordon Ramsay)
@aeternum @SnoringEarthworm or when you have Last Airbender and Project Blue Book on the same Plex…
This is a very niche meme. I love it.
Haruhi Suzumiya has entered the chat
Beavis and Butthead.
The bane of my existence before it hit Paramount+
Now you can find individual episodes as WEB-DL
Also in the original aspect ratio or was it cropped?
Good shout. I basically put the show on hold until something like this happened. Do you know if the first 4 or 5 seasons are available?
Can personally speak to 1-3 being available
American dad being screwy is what got me to finally setup Jellyfin. I was just using Stremio for everything but the jumping around because of season misnumbering was bad
The Repair Shop was a real pain in the ass to import since they apparently run multiple seasons concurrently for some reason.
