Hi lemmings!

Moving into a new flat soon and will need to buy both fridge and freezer preferably in one combined unit. Been looking at the side-by-side ones. Anyways Ive got little to no knowledge about fridges and freezers and was wondering if there are any typical “gotchas” to look out for?

I am based on the EU and would prefer to buy from an EU brand too. Any recommendations or tips are plenty welcome!

Thanks as always ☺️

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    Side-by-sides require you to pretty much squat to get to the items on the lowest shelves. Consider taking a look at units that have a freezer drawer instead. Go to the store, and try accessing the bottom items in both kinds see which one is easier for you. This is especially important if you or someone in your family has a bad back.

    Check to see how the shelves adjust. Compare to what you currently have in your home. Some refrigerators allow you to split shelves. Other others have a single shelf that goes the entire width of the refrigerator. For example, where would you put the leftover pizza box? Or the milk carton? Can the doors hold the items that are currently in your fridge doors?

    When shopping, be sure to look at the warranty, especially on the compressor. Some of the warranties are really lousy. Repairing the cooling system (compressor and coolant refill) can cost just out of warranty as buying a new refrigerator. LG for example has a 10 year warranty on some of their compressors, but not all of their models. Be sure to check the warranty on the specific model you are buying.

    Some refrigerators have icemakers in the door, some of them in the freezer. In my experience it doesn’t matter which you choose. having a bunch of ice located in the freezer helps keep it cool. What is more important is if you want a filtered water dispenser. If this is the case, I recommend getting one on the door exterior so you don’t have to let all the chilled air out while you fill a glass or pitcher. The exception is that some Samsung models include a pitcher that’s kept automatically filled in the refrigerator door. However, this pitcher is plastic, so that may be a concern depending on your views on microplastics.

    If you are worried about where your appliances manufactured, you’re going to need to look at the label inside the fridge. It will sayon the label. You can’t really just rely on a brand, since brands have factories in multiple countries. You should also be aware that there aren’t a lot of brands really left. Most of the brands have been allowed to merge into a handful companies. You can look up the brand on Wikipedia to see who the actual manufacturer is.

    I encourage you to take actual measurements of the appliance at a store. Relying on the measurements on a website can be very confusing. Some depth measurements include the depth of the doors, some do not some specified depths with handles, some do not you need to measure the space where your fridge will fit this includes height, width, and depth.

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    11 hours ago

    That setup is not for everyone but if I had to get a new set right now I’d buy a medium sized fridge with a glass door (I already have a small one in my office and I love being able to see what’s inside without leaving the door open, the brand is called Klarstein) and a chest freezer. Chest freezers are way more efficient because the cold air stays put when you open them and they’re just practical for using all of the available space.

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    I bought a new fridge freezer recently. It was tricky because of limited width, but I’m happy with the Bosch I chose (it was on special). Freezer’s at the bottom, with drawers, which I’ve grown to appreciate. I was also dubious about the bigger veggie drawer, but actually it’s great.

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    Smart/App:

    1. Ignore the App and “buhuuu smarrrtt bad”!warning here and rather look at the brand more exactly and do your own due diligence. Is a cloud app bad? Yes,maybe. (But tbh, the amount of information given out is somewhat negligible here) BSH (Bosch-Siemens Hausgeräte, incl. Neff and Gagenau) offers HomeConnect that at least is within GDPR reach. Even better: If you already have a Home Assistant instance running there is a “Home Connect local” integration that,well, gives you the important benefits while keeping it local. Liebherr offers the “Smart Box” as an upgrade that your install yourself,but as far as I know there is no proper way to keep it offline. But Liebherr has a fair share of privacy certifications at least (and a lot to loose as loosing them for their “sidemarket” of household cooling appliances and thereby fucking over their professional market would really bite them…not that that is a guarantee, but…maybe it helps…

    There are a few Asian brands that work with Tuya (which is a data security/privacy nightmare) but also support Tuya local (without cloud).

    The information security risk for these solutions,especially when using proper network segmentation (which is easily done - if you aren’t into IT then get a Omada combined router and be done in 1h)… Last but not least: You can of course smarten up your fridge yourself. Get a binary door opening sensor, wireless temperature probe and most importantly a power measuring plug (Nous A1T are Tasmota based and cheap) so you can find out early if your device fucks up.

    Besides that’Considering the energy prices here get the most efficient one you can afford. It will get amortization sooner than you think.

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    I had one with a bottom freezer and also a side by side and hated them both. A traditional top door freezer really is the best.

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      My washing machine has wifi and an app. I bought it because I read the manual and all networking is disabled by default.

      Otherwise, for all appliances, get ones with the longest warranty, unless there is a significant difference in price.

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        A warranty is only as good as the company offering it. I’d opt for a shorter warranty with good customer service

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          I tend to agree with that. But with the way customer service is going these days, its still a gamble. I like longer warranties if only because it seems like the manufacturer has some confidence in what they produced

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    Not a Samsung. My wife used to be a big fan, but the last two brand new Samsung fridges broke within weeks, and their product support was terrible.

    (Our current fridge is LG and we haven’t had any problems with it. There are probably other brands that are also reliable and well built).

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      Just be aware, LG’s linear compressors (ie. the ones that claim a 10yr warranty) are prone to failure; ours crapped out after ~3 years and was deemed uneconomical to repair.

      Thankfully we have pretty strong consumer protections in Australia (and I expect similar, or better in the EU for OP); so we ended up getting a full refund from the retailer which we ended up putting towards a Hitachi model, after way too much research.

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        Thanks, we’re coming up on three years for this fridge, so now I know what to expect. (Also in Australia). We bought this particular fridge not because of brand, but because we’re renting and the kitchen has a stupid cutout space between cabinets and this is the only fridge that fits.

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          We’re likely in a similar boat, due to the size of our fridge nook. We had the LG 530L French Door Fridge Stainless Steel GF-B505PL previously, that the compressor failed in.

          I’d you aren’t already, you should be pulling the fridge out every six months or so and cleaning behind it to keep the compressor free from dust bunnies.

          We managed to just squeeze in a Hitachi 638L 4 Door French Door Fridge in the same space, even though it juts out by ~10cm - the added 100L capacity (and bonus unplumbed ice maker) was worth the trade-off.

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              Yeah, that’s basically it - there’s a small removable filter/container in between the two vegetable drawers that you fill up with water.

              It then pumps the water into an ice tray in the freezer, and dispenses ice into a tray every few hours.

              Edit - it looks like this:

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            I’d you aren’t already, you should be pulling the fridge out every six months or so and cleaning behind it to keep the compressor free from dust bunnies.

            Thanks, appreciate that.

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    In my experience side by sides are the least efficient use of their space. Its hard to stack most frozen foods up tall and narrow because they slide around and will slide out the front every time you open the door. Freezer top or freezer bottom units can be packed a lot more efficiently since it maximizes horizontal space and I vastly prefer them.

    “Nothing smart” is the only other appliance rule.

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    We switched from side-by-side to a pullout drawer freezer on bottom and could not be happier. Side-by-side really limits your storage space, whereas top and bottom units allow you to store larger or unusually shaped things. And having the freezer in a drawer is clutch, way better than having it on top

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      I absolutely hate my side-by-side. Can’t fit a frozen pizza, the veggie drawers can barely hold a few days worth of vegetables. Had to move my water pitcher to a shelf because the door shelves are so small, but that also meant taking a shelf out of the fridge.

      I’m getting the same style you have, and I’m super excited lol

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    It’s worth it to pay extra for anything that doesn’t need an app or WiFi connectivity.

    Those are huge red flags. Avoid anything “smart” like the plauge.

    Appliances with “smart features” are simply scraping your whole home, not just your phone, for data to sell to advertisers. Very often the app or even the company won’t outlive the appliance itself, so as happens frequently, in 2 years you’ll be stuck with a perfectly workable appliance that refuses to work because some server in China went offline.

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    Size: height depth width… Can be easy to miss one dimension. Energy rating - obvious reasons Noise depending on the room it’s in Ergonomics - can you reach all the bits you need to… Imagine filling it with your weekly shop. - better energy rating=more insulation=less space. Doors can generally be reversed, but check. Some FFs have two compressor circuits, others only one. Can be important if keeping it in a garage. Do you need a water cooler/ice maker thing? More to clean, more to go wrong. YOUR FRIDGE DOES NOT NEED AN INTERNET CONNECTION Nor does it need funky windows & stuff Self defrost is a must. We spent ages discussing colour, now you can barely see it behind pictures & papers etc.

    Think " is this a useful feature for me, or is it marketing fluff? "

    Finally, while a fridge should be a long term purchase, is just a box that gets cold. Don’t lose sleep over it.

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    Liebherr is European and good. Expensive though.

    Depth is the measurement most forget, check it fits. A deeper one is a good way to get more capacity.

    Make a decision on your fridge freezer split. I do a lot of batch cooking, so went for 50/50 to get more room in the freezer.

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    Having spent a year selling appliances at Home Depot, I will rank the following brands of refrigerator in order of quality. Beyond that, it really just comes down to features.

    • LG - they used to have a lot of problems with their compressors, but they solve that a couple of years ago. They make honestly the best refrigerators for the money. They come in some cool designs.

    • GE - if LG is the “modern look”, then GE is the “traditional look“. That’s not to say that GE doesn’t make very lovely refrigerators – – they do. And they are very high-quality as well. However, unlike LG, the lower end GE refrigerators aren’t as high in quality as the lower and LG refrigerators.

    • Samsung - some of the most pretty most expensive most feature filled refrigerators. And they’re absolute fucking garbage. You’ll own it for two or three years before something. Major goes wrong. Within five years you’ll have to replace it. And, again, they cost, hundreds, even thousands of dollars, more than their competitors. Avoid Samsung appliances at all costs.