YouTube isn’t happy you’re using ad blockers — and it’s doing something about it::undefined

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      I’m considering giving up Youtube right now with how many times it tries to fuck up my recommendations by sneaking far right BS into my watch history. Especially you, shorts.

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    YouTube is WHY I have adblockers to this day. I was Ok with the ads at the beginning and end. When they started cramming 2-3 ads in the middle of a 10 minute video, that’s when I started looking for a solution.

    Their greed is why they make $0 from me many years later.

    I think it’s rich they aren’t happy with people using them when they’re the ones that made the standard viewing experience awful in the first place.

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      WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE TRILLION DOLLAR SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM APPARATUS !?!

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        THE DYSTOPIAN 1984 OCEANIA SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS THE TRUTH ALONGSIDE THE BIG BROTHER HAS FEELINGS TOO, YOU KNOW ?!?!?

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    ! 2023-10-06 https://www.youtube.com
    www.youtube.com##tp-yt-paper-dialog.ytd-popup-container.style-scope
    

    Oh no, anyway.

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      Is this a rule for an adblock extension? What does it pick out?

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        It gets rid of the nag screen so you can just watch the video. For uBlock Origin, it’s a bit crude, may affect other bits of interface, I also use the Enhancer for YouTube plug-in for Firefox which is really useful.

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          I quite easily removed it with uBlock using block element, but the video is still paused.

          I guess this is a similar solution?

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          It’ll work until they get annoyed and do what Hulu and Twitch does and bake it into the player. Then we’re kinda fucked.

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    The day I can’t get around youtube ads is the day I stop using youtube. I already refuse to use it on my mobile device or my TV, due to the ads.

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        It doesn’t block it, it doesn’t even download them or even request them. There is no concept of ad in NewPipe.

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            The official newpipe isn’t on the play store because it breaks their terms of service, which makes sense considering 2 of the 3 “newpipes” on there are just completely different apps using the name and logo of newpipe. The third is actually newpipe but with loads of ads added, not sure how long it’ll last before Google nukes it.

            But yeah for newpipe just get the offical ad free and open source version from TeamNewPipe on GitHub or on F-Droid in the main repo. Or if you want newpipe with no ads and also with sponsorblock, you want to get it from polymorphicshade on GitHub or through F-Droid with the Izzyondroid repo.

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              On the subject of newpipe, if you also view a lot of videos on NicoNico, Japanese yt, I recommend the pipepipe fork since it allows you to play both yt videos along with videos from NicoNico without ads. Also works with BiliBili in case you like listening to Chinese vocaloid songs or other Chinese content without ads.

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      On Android the Firefox app allows the use of extensions including all the adblock options you would find on PC. Works great and for YouTube as well.

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        I think it’s it’s own thing.

        The danger of advertising is not that it is able to brainwash you into changing your opinions. The danger is that repeated exposure to inauthentic stories changes your expectations, and plants paying advertisers in your memory.

        This in turn allows your behavior to be controlled, especially in aggregate. You will remember company X sells a thing you want and go buy it, or you will think other people think company Y is environmentally friendly so you will pick them for your vegan barbecue party, or you will have heard of company Z and not automatically skip over their offering in a store. But since it all operates by tampering with your heuristics instead of trying to bowl over your adopted, explicit opinions, it doesn’t trigger any of your protective responses.

        And that’s why you should never view an advertisement.

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    What is even more infuriating, I’m from one of the countries that had YouTube Premium Lite available. €6,99 for adfree YouTube with none of the ‘offline’ or YouTube Music nonsense that I wouldn’t be using anyway.

    My wife and myself have been subscribed for about 6 months now, totally seeing the value of it. Literally one month after signing my mum also onto it, she gets an email telling her that her subscription will end in a month from now.

    Fuck that shit.

    YouTube Premium Lite was perfect, affordable and removed exactly the main issue with YouTube: ads. Endless stupid amounts of ads.

    I’ll go back to Firefox with any amount of extensions that block ads and block the ad-block blockers. Google would have to burn the browser market to the ground before I’ll consider subscribing again.

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      The irony in this? They have just announced this very subscription plan in Germany. Not even a week after axing the plan in some neighbouring countries.

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      Google would have to burn the browser market to the ground before I’ll consider subscribing again.

      They’re sure as fuck trying.

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      I recommend going to India (VPN) in order to buy premium Together with the family option, you can get to about 1$ a month

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    I’m torn because fuck ads, but also YouTube is probably the most expensive website on earth to run (just the website itself, obviously a shipping company with a website will cost more.) Video is just obscenely expensive to store and they let free accounts upload 4k and keep it private.

    I honestly don’t know the solution here because YouTube being free is amazing, but they’ve literally never made money. I think a business model like nebula is more sustainable, but it sucks for those that can’t afford it.

    (To head off any arguments, I’m pro piracy, I just can’t blame YouTube to trying to stop people)

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    I understand that hosting video and streaming it is an expensive business that has to be paid, even if we ignore all the income Google has racked up by profiling people and (ab)using that to show ads. That said, I wouldn’t mind if they had more taste which ads play, in what number and fucking when. Most annoying thing is when the play 3 minute ads on 6 minute video. Not even shittiest TV network does that. And also unskipable ads. These days I skip all, self-promotion and in-video sponsors included.

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      Yeah, my experience with youtube ads

      Buy a Chromebook

      PragerU

      Right wing Youtubers

      Don’t vote to make abortion a protected right by the state constitution

      Buy a ford

      Here’s a pornographic/semi pornographic anime game we are paid to show you

      BUY A CHROME BOOK!

      Hey, check out this person’s scam! They paid us to force this scam on you!

      Look at these cable news channels’ youtube channels

      Listen to this mom who is totally concerned about some bill that will kill or save all the children

      BUY

      A

      CHROMEBOOK!

      buy a jeep

      Listen to this prepper try to hock you “survival” gear and shelf stable food

      Don’t you remember when families did things? wasn’t that fun? Families, doing things?

      Soon it will also be flooded with THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN!

      I am interested in none of these things

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          My 6yo gets a ton of ads for insurance, about the same amount as for toys. It’s weird.

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          You could always spice it up and see what you get.

          I use VPNs and ad blockers where I can / when they work. I also have an extension that makes my Internet traffic useless by sending random data. When I need to go to the official YouTube app and get ads I get a smorgasbord. Right now they seem to think I’m either a recently divorced middle aged man with ED who just discovered they are actually a balding gay man or a teenaged girl with period problems and a desperate need for a social media following. Neither of these even come close but it’s always entertaining to see what I get.

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        That thing, you know that thing that you already buy? Here’s an ad for it! Now we get to lie and say we were the reason you bought it!

        It’s so fucking weird how I got way more ads for runescape when I played runescape, and it’s not like I watch less runescape content today. They also seem to think I’m a girl because whenever I do get something unique it’s always for purses, make up, fashion and hygiene products; all of which I have a below-zero chance of ever buying.

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          I have never gotten an ad for a game I was currently playing. For me it’s always these mobile games, namely ones that use hentai art to sell the game, I have found out some of these are not actually porn games, or the most recent offering from the biggest studios.

          Oh you reminded me, hygiene products, all sorts of hygiene products that have been branded to assure me I am not gay, or a woman, for wanting bathe and groom myself. There is also the one where some douche tells me I am not a dish.

          I never get fashion ones, however my feed is periodically bombarded with videos to people who make subculture fashion for women. like lolita dresses. I have no idea why. The only thing I can think of is that I show an interest in music with associated subcultures and they just do not know how to get them right. Hey, this guy listened to Lingua Ignota, let’s send him 20 channels discussing pastel colored lolita clothes and kawaii culture.

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      These days I skip all, self-promotion and in-video sponsors included.

      Sounds like you probably use it but if not, get the SponsorBlock extension to do exactly this.

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      They show those 3 minute ads because they get paid a lot for them. My favorite are the 30 minute documentary ads.

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        Make sure you clear all caches and update the filters in uBO, that’s the recommended way to prevent the message from popping up

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    I’ve been paying the €5 ad free subscription without other premium features for years until they announced that it will be discontinued from next month.

    So then I am going to take a new look into ad blockers.

    Good job, YouTube.

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    I keep seeing these headlines, but my ad blockers all still work just fine. So, good job Google and YouTube lol

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      This is a naive take TMHO.

      Youtube has been rolling this out, phased, slowly, for the last few months. Judging peoples reactions and engagement levels.

      They are only mildly foolish and know that ad block users are some of their most engaged and tech savvy. Just like ad block users generally know that youtube can’t exist without ad, and if everyone used them, we might all be worse off.

      Roll it out quickly, and you create awareness and ignite the fuckery out of the arms race, do it slowly, watch the engagement, and try to find the best messaging to bring “us” “back on side”, and maybe they stand a chance to shift the needle.

      (Firefox nightly + ublock origin for the record, had ad block messages on/off from Youtube for about a week)

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        Before long, Google will kick Origin out of their stores for malware like behaviour. 😂

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        Add SponsorBlock and some extension that allows you to download videos and your gtg.

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          Again, im not naive enough to think that everyone can block all ads without consequence.

          So I don’t use sponsorblock.

          If I’m that offended by a sponsor spot, I can always skip it (an option usually unavailable with typical ads) or just close the video. If you’re pushing crytoscams, I’m pushing close.

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        I feel like their A/B testing also takes into account an individual user’s propensity to leave their service permanently.

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      It’s an arms race. They block adblockers, adblockers block the anti-adblocks. It breaks for maybe like a few hours before it’s circumvented.