• Hyundai is slowly backing away from the all-screen approach to interior design.
  • Hyundai Design North America Vice President Ha Hak-soo said that people “get stressed, annoyed and steamed when they want to control something in a pinch but are unable to do so.”
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    1 month ago

    Good. This should be forced via regulations. Touchscreen controls are provably more dangerous than buttons due to the distraction.

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      Haptic feedback like knob clicks or button presses are much easier to use without taking eyes off the road as often.

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        Shhh, don’t call it “haptic feedback” or they might make them flat, unmoving buttons that have a vibration motor behind them.

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        Don’t you still have to look at it to find it first? Edit: sorry i thought you were talking about touch screens

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          No. All the knobs are in roughly the same area, so you can find and manipulate them by touch without looking.

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            I regularly manipulate my 2008 Toyota matrix’s radio and HVAC controls while never taking my eyes off the road. I won’t buy any car that forgoes the physical controls.

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          Even if you have to look at it first, once on it you can go by feel where as i find i struggle to do the same on a fully touch control.

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      I’m sure Trump and his new auto industry advisor, Elon Musk, will get right on that. 😔

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      I have a UFO Civic and, out of all the cars I’ve been in, it has hands down the best dashboard. Everything is tactile and arranged in a way that I don’t have to look away from the road to adjust anything.

      Beyond tactile vs. touchscreen, I wish more manufacturers payed attention to ergonomics so I wouldn’t have to reach into my ass to find the AC or the defogging button.

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    Absolutely my creed. In my industrial niche, touch screen never took hold - when your action is actually (or at least perceived) important, nobody wants to rely on touch screens.

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    I have a pre-touchscreen era (for its model anyway) 2012 car. I’m hoping by the time I have to get a new car this touchscreen fad will have come and gone. How are you supposed to use those things in the winter when you have gloves on?

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      Most newer touch panels work pretty well with gloves but they do make gloves that are compatible with touch panels.

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      There’s a happy medium. I have a slightly newer VW GTI (2017) with a touchscreen but there are still buttons and dials for basically everything. It’s a perfect infotainment system if you ask me :)

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    Got a Tucson to test for a few weeks. I was delighted to give it back. It was infuriating to use, the glass slab caught every light and felt like it was at 103% of the perfect distance everywhere I needed to touch.

    The worst thing about modern cars though, outside of the sim card live locations and data scraping, is the safety message on start up that needs confirmation and the fucking safety pause on android auto. I hate it.

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      Had a loaner Ford edge with the giant PITA display. Want to adjust the temperature? You have to look way down at the bottom and then slide the adjuster !!!SLiDE your fucking finger in a small area!!! Sooooo fucking stupid! And it is three taps to turn pretty much anything on. Just give me dials and switches.

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    I once rented a Mini Countryman and was pleasantly surprised by the highly tactile switches they use. They felt like aircraft switches in that they had weight and springy resistance to them. Much better than all this touchscreen nonsense.

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    To me it’s about balance and design. I’ve been in cars with too many physical buttons and those can be a distraction too.

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      This is true. I mean who ever needed the ability to dial a phone number manually from the dashboard? Among others.

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    I drive a 2023 Sonata N-Line. I feel like Hyundai got this one absolutely perfect as far as balancing physical buttons versus touch screen buttons. Every single important driving control has a physical button that is easy to reach and feel while keeping your eyes on the road. The only exception might be the control to turn the highway driving assist feature on and off. The touch screen is large and extremely responsive and has a multitude settings, but nothing that you would need immediately while driving. Absolutely love this car

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    My current car has a fairly large screen for media, gps, and some other in depth settings that don’t need to be addressed while driving.

    The rest is physical buttons and I honestly really like that hybrid approach to this.

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      The “Firman” generators you buy at Costco are honestly fantastic. They have saved my bacon for years on end on a budget since I live in Northern California where we pay literally the highest electricity prices in the entire planet for the privilege of having 1-2 outages per month.

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        ??? i was talking about car engines? Hyundai’s Theta engine series has been cursed with design flaws and horrible machining quality for so many years now that I don’t really trust any of their vehicles enough to even consider switching to one.

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          “Firman” and “Hyundai” are the same engine manufacturer. Maybe they suck at scaling up, the small engines I have purchased from them have stood up to a lot of abuse.

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        I live in Northern California where we pay literally the highest electricity prices in the entire planet

        Bullshit…you’re not even the most expensive in the US. And for “planet reference” the average price ATM where i live (not US) is 40¢/kWh, and we’re not even the most expensive…

        Edit: misread California as Carolina…my bad

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            You’re either a shitty LLM or you have difficulties with substance abuse like I do. If you’re the latter, please reach out to me again and we can have a private conversation about our journey to sobriety.

            Uuh…what does that have to do with electricity prices??

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    The fast forward and rewind options on my car stereo are both touch only, and they rarely (if ever) work. I like everything else about my car, which thankfully didn’t do away with too many buttons and mostly uses the touchscreen for the backup camera and stereo. But those two functions specifically being part of the touchscreen makes no sense and drives me crazy.