• Tux@lemmy.world
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    Why l would pay 30$ to dumpester fire OS to use it securely for another year when l could install Linux for free with more than 7 year security?

    And consumers can only pay for single year.

    It just shows how M$ doesn’t care about their costumers treating them like lab rats.

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      I switched to Linux myself but can we please stop lying about Linux being a drop-in replacement? There is enough sofware that does not work.

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        A lot of Linux users here think the conversation begins and ends with game support. A lot of us use our computers for work and there is a lot of productivity and creative software that does not play nice with Linux. I’ve probably said this a dozen times here before but I’ll say it again: Not all of us use our computers solely for gaming.

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          theres also a lot of productivity and creative software that does. linux for work is way better than linux for gaming and id bet 80%+ of people can work off it much better.

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            Whats the best replacement for Excel? LibreCalc is ok but it lags really far behind Excel in intermediate features. My close friend in analytics switched back to Excel recently because he got so tired of dealing with LibreCalc.

            Also do you know if the Affinity suite works well in Wine? Ive messed with a lot of software paid and libre for its purposes but just vibe with Affinity best

            Im not asking to sound rude im asking because im genuinely looking down the barrel of this OS change and I do a lot of computer based hobbies and work that are going to be uprooted by this

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              best replacement for Excel

              I’ve never met a google sheet that couldn’t do what excel did unless excel was being made to do shit it really isn’t ideal for

              Yeah it’s another Corp, but you don’t have to pay and you can simultaneously edit the file on 80 devices at the same time if you want

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              both affinity and photoshop run well on wine for me. there are native tools like krita that work well for less complex use cases.

              as for office i use some basic macros and calculations and libreoffice works for me, but there are many choices that may or may not work for your friend.

              admittedly, software discovery on linux is awful. the app store isnt that good on some distros and theres basically no promotion.

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            This exactly. I’m an engineer but day-to-day I’m mainly using the Office shite (I tried for suite but ended up with former and happy to run with it) to do my job. The amount of extraneous effort I have to make to do tasks that would have been simple in 2005 is completely ridiculous. Yet on my home computer running Arch BTW, I can do everything instantaneously, the only downside is that some supplier I don’t really care for wants my presentation in pptx. If it wasn’t for work data security requirements, I’d just use my personal equipment for everything because I’d be able to work so much faster.

            Edit: not to mention a lot of FOSS software is better than the professional bullshit (AutoCAD needs to die), it’s just a lot more effort to get up to speed with because colleagues around you don’t know it (yet)

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          Have you tried Bottles and/or Wine?

          I’ve never had a problem running anything from the Adobe or Microsoft Suite for example, in fact I think they run waaay smoother on linux

          But yea I get it, a lot of people associate compatibility with gaming only.

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            Really? So I could use my Wacom Cintique and my 2024 versions of Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Animator on Linux then? Because I use them to make a living and if I cannot use them on Linux easily then there is no point.

            As a former Linux user from the early 00’s the biggest hurdle was art software and convincing Linux users that Adobe software means more than just Photoshop……

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              Premiere Pro runs smoother on Linux than on Win7-10 ever did

              After effects felt the same as PP

              So far I haven’t run into any program wine/bottles can’t run. Closest I got was needing to install a second program through wine and run them through the same prefix which is not hard at all

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          Honestly I figure “work computers” are often overlooked because many companies force windows for their spying “productivity monitoring” apps.

          That said, there’s always “having a work computer and a separate secure personal computer.” The linux machine doesn’t even have to be particularly powerful, it could be whatever old used machine (w/o nvidia) you can get your hands on.

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        Absolutely. Especially software that has to interface with specific hardware, which often times can have issues working properly with Windows VMs.

        I can just dedicate some old hardware for baremetal Win10, but not everyone has that luxury.

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      They don’t expect home users to pay. Remember that they often refuse to even reboot their computers to receive security updates.

      Extended support is pretty much intended exclusively for enterprises.