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It is mind boggling to me that in the year 2023 we’re complaining about porn, LGBT existence, and fucking book content. Isn’t this what we were laughing at 20 years ago? About book burnings and how stupid the previous generations were for fearing and banning media that challenged them?
It is mind boggling to me that in the year 2023 we’re complaining about porn, LGBT existence, and fucking book content. Isn’t this what we were laughing at 20 years ago?
It’s easy to forget because of how quickly the cultural zeitgeist shifted when it finally did, but the early 2000s was still very homophobic. Watching pretty much any comedy from that era reminds you of just how common the punchline to jokes was just, “teehee they’re gay.”
In the early 2000s it was exceptionally common to hear things referred to as “gay” if they were “bad” in some way. Chandler’s “Dad” in friends is one I look back on and shudder. I understand when boomers say things like “things were different back then, but our ability to reflect and do better is what moves our species forward. Not dig in and scream no!
You ever watch Lily Simpson on You Tube, she does analysis of trans characters and their treatment in older media. Her analysis of Chandlers dad actually showed they weren’t that bad of a depiction.
I think you are missing about whole point of jokes being jokes.
Of course. Humor is never used to other out-groups so they can be treated as less. Gay jokes are just good clean fun. Like racist and misogynist jokes. /s
Isn’t this what we were laughing at 20 years ago?
We were laughing, they were seething and planning.
History is cyclical if large chunks of the population refuse to acknowledge it.
You should watch the documentary show about the duggars and how they’re part of a huge cult that systemically indoctrinates kids, fucks them, and gets them into politics. It’s disgusting. It’s an organized push of quiverfull fundamentalist shit being pushed into law.
Most of them ARE previous generation.
AD&D is a gateway to Satan worship and witchcraft. /s
… AT&T ?
Dungeons and Dragons. Tabletop roleplaying game. Because it featured demons, magic, etc with elaborate books documenting it all, conservatives condemned it.
More context for OP, AD&D is Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, basically it is the second edition of Dungeons and Dragons before they started using the 3E, 3.5E, 4E, 5E nomenclature.
ADHD? Some days, I think it might be…
So, let’s get this straight. They’re going to take a bunch of dudes, take away their porn, not teach them sexual health, not tech them about consent, strip abortion rights, make women scared to come forward, teach them it was their fault, and do nothing about police ineptitude/corruption. I’m not even exaggerating when I say that it seems like the GOP wants a generation of rape babies. Banking on their future voting bloc?
If I had no context and read your comment I’d think you’re describing the Taliban or some other islamofascist government. The GOP has really gone off the deep end.
The gop has really gone off the deep end
“You merely adopted the deep end… I was born I it!”
-The gop
I mean, even with context it’s no different.
When you start talking about consent they get uncomfortable and that’s just a bridge too far. It’s really, really close to accountability, the one thing they hate more than anything else.
rape babies.
Rabies for short.
The GOP/Nazi party is where humanity goes to die. Good thing they are in an ever shrinking minority.
The boomer remover aka Covid knocked a bunch of those out- disproportionately in red states.
Wouldn’t it be nice if these clowns stopped trying to legislate away their hangups and instead sought some fucking therapy?
A mentally unwell population hyped to chase an overblown issue is easier to control. They’ll let themselves be exploited as long as the moral panic is hijacking their attention, which is why there is always a new one.
Can we stop blaming this on being “mentally unwell” and recognize these people are assholes? I was suicidal for 18 years, and I managed to never be “unwell” enought to pull the lever for a Republican or to think that policy should only be made for the interests of people like me, so clearly mental wellness isn’t the deciding factor here. Most Nazi voters weren’t mentally ill, and neither are most of these people. They’re deeply, profoundly selfish, not sick.
There wouldn’t be a massive media aparatus from TV to social media meant to manipulate and indoctrinate people into conservatives if it was just a matter of people being inherently good or bad. Hell, this is as old as organized religion, which is historically constantly intertwined with power.
It is a matter mental unwellness. It might not be the same type of mental unwellness as yours, but many people out of vulnerability, insecurity, loneliness or nihilism end up becoming prey to manipulative groups. How many times have I heard stories of people who struggle with something in their lives and end up joining a church and pretty much changing completely. Have you never seen anything like that?
Some people spent all their lives being told what to believe and have a hard time even imagining anything else. Some people who are today completely rabid fascists used to be decent and just lost themselves in a rabbit hole for one reason or another. I get that right now even trying to talk them out of it is a nigh impossible effort, but this wasn’t an inevitable fate written on their soul. It’s a result of widespread propaganda and disinformation that twisted them.
I never said it was fate. Of course propaganda plays a role. All I’m saying is that hate isn’t a mental illness. People are morally responsible for their hate. Lumping people like that in with mentally ill people will make our lives harder, and they’re hard enough already. Associating us with them will make it easier, psychologically, for other people to involuntarily commit us or even kill us (check the stats on police shootings and severe mental illness). I’m not saying people are born to hate. I’m saying we have enough problems, please don’t advocate mixing them in with us. Call hate a “social illness” and treat them that way. We have enough problems.
Fair, “social illness” is a good way to put it.
Fucking therapy? I’m interested
Look up sexual surrogacy. 😉
America is losing the fucking plot!
Correction.
A very small yet very loud part of the USA is losing the plot and their mind. The rest of us are just trying to get on with our own lives while navigating the mine field that is the gop magats.
I mostly agree with you. I’d say the “rest of us” have a certain population that feel like getting on with their own life is now being made impossible/illegal/unsustainable. That leads to disharmony between citizens who would be better off teaming up against the common enemy of Oligarchs. The GOP feels like a symptom of legal human rights violations at this point. If we just keep living our own lives like I would also like to, the blight will just continue to get worse.
Listen to them when they say:
Evil triumphs when the good people do nothing.
As someone who stood in front of some dude trying to force me to suck his dick (and I fucked off immediately) and getting back assaulted by randoms on the midschool (while dressed) yet I’m still an hetero, biological male…? What the heck is going on? Why on earth I’d start sucking dicks just because I saw some dude naked on screen? That’d be ridiculous, and a demonstration of a severe lack of wit and common sense. That is like, staring at my own cock would make me gay or something amongst those lines.
But would you do it for a Klondike bar?
Or even secretly renting hookers and escorts, even if they are gay or trans.
Don’t mind the ladybugs.
Dumb af and would never happen. I’m sure the porn industry has enough money to buy off politicians.
Look you can call me any name in the book. The current where children can easily form para social relationships with what are essentially pornstars and it’s extremely easy for teenagers to become sex workers isn’t healthy.
I’m not saying Hawley is right but there needs to be some real effort to address this.
Uhhh, porn is definitely addictive… not against banning or removing it, but…
“Addictive” means so many different things to different people at this point, it’s become useless. If you can compare the erotic materials I share with my spouse to heroin with a straight face, I’m not the one with a problem.
Lol, you jump straight up to haroin? Just because you and your wife have a healthy relationship with porn doesn’t mean it can’t be addictive to other people. If someone has physical withdrawal symptoms from not consuming the thing, it’s an addiction.
Like, caffeine is highly addictive, but you wouldn’t compare that with haroin.
I absolutely would compare caffeine with heroin when making the point that the term “addiction” has become so broad as to be meaningless.
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Weak statement about the party that is LITERALLY banning books and writing laws against teachers discussing objective historical fact in classrooms across the country.
Not to mention the main point you’d ignored/missed while skimming the headline, which is that pornography is first amendment protected speech according to the law and the gop have been actively working to ban it, as a pillar of their party, for over 50 years at this point.
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Being a European, I am seeing extremists of both sides picking at each other.
No normal people left anymore?
The US doesn’t have a left wing party. We have a extreme right wing party, and a center right wing party. This both sides shit is stupid as fuck. “We want to ban gays” is extreme. “We want gay people to have rights” is not
I saw a comment on another post by a European explaining American politics to another European.
“Their left is our right, their right is our far right, and their far right are literal flag waving Nazis.”
I was just thinking this. A regressive party and a conservative party.
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Oh yes. Extreme Left Wing ideas like: Trans people deserve human rights, We should feed our children, We should forgive college loans to borrowers that are being burdened so heavily with debt they can’t start a family or buy homes (and the impact of it on the US Economy), Everyone has the right to vote. Wow…
I guess if you’re mostly happy with how something is then you’ve no reason to bring it up.
Nobody is writing long articles, posting tweets or appearing on TV shows to talk about it being quite nice that they can currently go and buy a beer from a shop. But someone could easily decide that they want to rile people up about the easiness of buying beer. And it all goes from there.
You can always tell a disingenuous response with the both sides bullshit.
They pretty much always respond with transphobic shit too
I’m usually happy to hear an international perspective of us politics because it can be grounding. But you can’t “both sides” your way out of fascism. There is no far left institutional power in the us. Kindly keep your boot licking to yourself
It’s just right wing extremists who ruin democracy. Ya know, like Hitler with Germany not too long ago lol.
Lol, feck off.
Another dumbo heard from.
Lots of them, but normal doesn’t sell advertisements or make headlines. I see by the downvotes (or whatever Lemmy calls them) that you’ve been visited by the Reddit groupthink. It feels weird when it happens. Some of us just want everyone to get along…which feels radical in its own way.
Groupthink my ass. How about it’s not some idiot conspiracy and he’s just straight up wrong? Tough, I know.
It’s harder to see where the other side is coming from when you’re standing so far apart.
“Normal people,” or people anywhere in the middle of the two poles, who can see both sides still are generally pretty quiet now because they get attacked by one side for “sympathizing” with the other. I talk to both extremes daily in my line of work, and it’s exhausting to be respectful of either far-directional sentiment all day, every day
