I saw someone say it was because she’s supporting dems but that doesn’t seem like enough for the amount of dunking I’ve seen. Did y’all think she was so far to the left that that would be a betrayal? I’ve typically thought of her as a progressive more than a leftist. Is there some statement she made I’m not aware of?
Shamelessly stolen from r/youtubedrama I take no accountability:
A couple of things happened that culminated in her going private. First, Anti-zionist folks have been accusing her for awhile of not being outspoken enough about the genocide (despite the fact she has made her stance on the topic known repeatedly). Next, she made a post this week condemning some actual anti-semitism, stating that it was harmful to the actual end-genocide movement. This post got her some backlash from anti-zionists once again, not sure why. Then she got kinda libbed up watching the DNC and made a short tweet about how good of a speaker Obama is. The Obama tweet caused a fresh wave of people attacking her due to Obama’s war crimes, and Contrapoints started being harassed with people sending her death threats and gorey videos of what’s going on in Palestine. She made a statement about how awful and unhelpful the harassment is, and then she deleted the tweets and went to private. You can see the deleted tweets by searching for the @ContraDeletes account on twitter.
It seems like a case of chronically online people taking things way too far and eating their own. I feel bad for Natalie tbh, so I am a bit biased.
Os just Twitter drama? People need to get off that site. It’s just racist Nazis on one side, and the left eating itself on the other.
I’m probably pretty out of the loop on that as well, but I know she did a video about how she was “cancelled” for doing a collaboration with a trans man who none-the-less had some pretty exclusionary views on who was allowed to call themselves “trans”. Something about distinguishing between transgendered and transsexual. I don’t remember the specifics, but some people in the LGBTQ community kindof hated him for things he’d said and Contrapoints, unaware of this, had this hated figure do some voice work in one of her videos and there was a lot of blowback for that.
Pretty sure this video is the one where she explains all that, and of course goes into her analysis and social comentary on the topic of cancelling in general.
It was Buck Angel, and when I first came out a dozen years ago his views were already trending towards yikes but he was not nearly the pariah he became when the transmedicalist discourse really flared up. Back then he was called “tranpa” (like Grandpa) and still respected for his advocacy during a time when there were few visible trans men doing that work. And iirc he was just given a role reading a quote in a vid, there wasn’t much of a platform to be had there. I don’t think he should have been in that video, but I’m also not someone clamoring to cancel her.
It feels like cancelling someone for not understanding the political leanings of a porn star is kinda dumb. I guess I’ve never thought of him more than someone who was used in memes.
I wish people knew more about Lou Sullivan and Alan Hart. We’ve got the U2 guys kid, Elliot Page (who is pretty cool), and a weird transmedicalist who simultaneously thinks that bottom surgery is mutilation (and did porn).
Don’t worry I’m sure someone will explain rationally instead of just calling you bigoted for asking this.
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Champagne socialist, IMO. Comes from wealth and privilege and makes a stupid amount from Patreon subs, most of which probably have no clue what Natalie’s net worth is. Has good opinions sometimes but I don’t know, personally I just find it weird as hell when literal millionaires act like they’re for the people while simultaneously living that bougee lifestyle because they can’t fathom living like regular folks and perhaps using their wealth to help regular folks out.
It weirds me out that a millionaire leftist sees fit to ask her working class supporters for money while hiding her net worth and how much she pulls in from Patreon each month.
I’ve gotten tons of hate for this opinion in the past and I fully expect it now, because Contrapoints has reached Breadtube royalty status.
If I’m starving and someone claiming to be my ally has a chest freezer full of steaks in their basement that they’re seemingly squirreling away… I don’t think it’s hard to see why there’s some discomfort there.
This is somehow the case with many “leftist creators” who made it big. Like, we don’t expect them to wear rags but they definitely should give back to the community, however that would look like. Anyway I still like many of her video essays and won’t stop watching them but if I have money to spend I will do so on a homeless shelter and not a creator’s patreon lmao
Homie, I don’t even know who that is. I’ve not seen anyone talking about them on lemmy or mastodon yet (haven’t scrolled much today so far though).
Gotta remember, the kind of crowd you’re asking questions to here is going to run heavy to people that don’t pay attention to the kind of person that’s not known by anything but their user name on whatever it is, if they aren’t hugely well known.
Do you have any links to help people that might be willing to try and figure out an answer despite not knowing who it is?
If you literally just use your preferential search engine you will find that the top result gives you the answer you seek to who the person OP is referring to. Just because you do not know someone does not mean that they don’t meet a specific magic threshold that needs to be met in order for someone to ask questions.
Well, they can ask anything they want, that’s fine.
But why should anyone waste their time searching for some random term?
Any given post that’s asking a question is a request for a person to spend their time doing something for the poster. There are some people willing to go the extra mile and look up things they have no interest in at all. There’s others that won’t go that far, but would look into the subject with a little groundwork already done.
In this case OP is asking about not the person themselves, but the response to that person. There’s no mention of where those responses are, and no information to help with that.
Now, there may still be people willing to look up the person, then track down whatever it is OP is talking about regarding that person catching heat, then come back and cobble together an answer. But there’s less of those than there are that would follow links and then expand a search.
I’m not asking for more information for myself to do this. IDGAF. I’m trying to guide OP to getting the answer they want, faster.
It isn’t about a magic threshold to ask. It’s about helping the crowd come up with a useful answer.
On a personal level, why the fuck would I want to search for some random person by user name? Anybody out there that’s publicly known by a user name instead of an actual name isn’t worth the time of looking up, which is extra true if the platform the user name is on isn’t known. Again, that’s for me personally; anyone else is perfectly free to do whatever they like.
It would have cost you 0$ to just not post anything at all.
“IDGAF”
posts a 27 page essay
also, don’t fucking lie, your initial post wasn’t to help out OP like you claim, it was to complain about OP not providing info about a popular youtuber you do not know about.
A little tip for next time: If you don’t know the answer, you can just ignore the question :)
Boy, it sure is nice to be a psychic that can read minds across the other internet! Guess what I’m thinking now
I’m not even going to bother reading what you wrote.
Not every question is directed personally at you.
She’s a very popular longform video essayist.
She’s also trans, so I assume any undeserved hate stems from that.
That would explain a right wing whining binge for sure.
Is she any good? I tend not to enjoy video essays, which means me trying to evaluate that would be pointless.
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Dude, what the heck are you thinking, saying that?
Take a chill pill
I have taken my chill pill. Apologies, it was way too angry. I am trying to argue less like that, deleted it the moment I sent it. Sorry it wasn’t removed from your inbox
There’s like 10 people here so not hearing it here is not a surprise lol
