“Biden realized that Netanyahu was lying to him about the hostages,” the official told Haaretz. “He’s not saying it publicly yet, but in the meeting between them, he specifically told him, ‘Stop bullshitting me.’”

On Friday, a senior member of the Israeli negotiating team told Haaretz that Israeli defense chiefs believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not interested in a hostage deal/cease-fire with Hamas. Israel’s Channel 12 also reported on a tense exchange between Netanyahu and the defense chiefs, in which Shin Bet head Ronen Bar said, “It feels like the prime minister doesn’t want the framework that’s on the table.” Turning to Netanyahu, he added that if that is the case, “you should tell us.”

Mossad chief David Barnea stressed to Netanyahu, “There is a deal on the table. If we delay, we could miss the opportunity. We have to take it.” Netanyahu, per the report, reacted angrily, accusing the defense chiefs of being “soft.”

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    Gee, what could have possibly clued Biden into the fact that Netenyahu was being disingenuous? Could it possibly have been the fact that after every time they spoke, Bibi would immediately go on-air in Israeli press and brag about what a little removed Biden is and how he’s completely in Bibi’s pocket? Could that have been a sign?!

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      Israel blows up the guy they’re negotiating a ceasefire with.

      Biden: “Hm… I’m starting to think this guy is not being entirely honest about wanting a peace…”

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    So sick of my tax dollars going to these ungrateful fucks who dishonor their ancestors by partaking in exactly what they themselves went through.

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      Comparing this war with the Holocaust is stupid. Even if you ignore the numbers, the situation itself is completely different. Palestinians are armed, hostile and a threat. German Jews were just harmless citizens, some even being in the German army, defending the country.

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        Did you really even think this through like at all?

        Believing leveling the civilian infrastructure and killing vast segments of families won’t lead to further radicalization and terrorism is stupid.

        Believing Israel can’t protect its borders if it actually read its own intelligence reports and committed even half the number of IDF to its 20-mile border as it did to this offensive is stupid.

        Believing attacking Gaza actually resolves the problem or even deals with the larger nations feeding those terrorists is stupid.

        Believing Bibi actually cares and isn’t just trying to wage an imperial conquest while trying to avoid ongoing criminal trials in Israel is stupid.

        Believing executing 4 women and children for 1 Hamas operative is worth it is fundamentally stupid.

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          Ok, cool.

          How does anything you wrote have anything to do with what I wrote? Like, at all?

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        They had 75 years to make peace. As the party with constant military supremacy and backing of the hegemonic power, the onus was on them to make it work. But we’ve known for decades that Israel’s leaders sabotaged the so called “peace process” and only wished to foster more hostility so they of leverage their military superiority.

        Good thing both sides have been breeding child soldiers like crazy so they both can have the blood orgy they crave so much.

        We just want to forget this cursed land of hate exists, is that so much to ask?

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          A. Who talked about peace? Who talked about who’s at fault? Read again what I wrote. All I said is that the situation is vastly different. This conflict requires peace to be made, the Holocaust wasn’t a conflict, but a straight up slaughter.

          B. Israeli child soldiers are news to me… There are plenty of photos of Hamas marching with children with weapons, but none that I know of from the Israeli side

          And yeah, I 100% agree that land just shouldn’t exist and that’s it.

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            Who talked about peace ? Everyone who has been trying to make us swallow this shit for the entire duration of since the UN’s original sin.

            Child soldiers ? I mean the Haredim breeders. Like most war religions, there is heavy emphasis on breeding child soldiers to outswarm the heathen invaders out of the righteous land they occupy.

            I was more riffing after your comment than responding to it.

            The whole affair disgusts me to the highest degree.

            I think multicellular life was a mistake, a hellish evolutionary dead end.

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              Saying Haredim and Soldiers in the same sentence is pretty stupid, considering all they do is study the Torah all day every day. I guess you meant the religious zionists movement, which are settlers and violent and should really be boycotted by every human alive.

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        Palestinians will get shot on site if going outside with a knife. Settlementers keep snipers on them consistently. Not just on Gazans.

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          I mean, if by “going outside” you mean - “crossing the Israeli border illegally” - then yes. They will get shot on site. I still don’t see how this has any comparison with the Holocaust.

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    You mean the Netanyahu whom Sarkozy and Obama called a liar 10 years ago? I mean, come on, obviously anyone with close knowledge of Israel ans Palestine knows Bibis track record – but if Obama knew it 10 years ago, then even his then-VP maybe should have known it too ???

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    We should back away from Israel. We have absolutely no legitimate business with them and they bring nothing to the table.

    Israel offers no unique military logistics, as we already have full access to the region via neighboring installations. They offer no substantial business to the U.S. They bring only strained relations with neighboring countries, with whom we have much more lucrative business ties.

    It’s time to back away from this toxic, one-sided relationship. It’s time for Israel to be diplomatic with their neighbors instead of starting wars they want the U.S. to win for them.

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    i hope he has his aides ready to tell him “duh doy” on this realization.

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      And then claim the ceasefire deal is terrible even though it gets you exactly what you claim to want.

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        Yeah it’s the rope that’s he’s used to kill 40,000 Palestinians I’m more worried about. If that’s a price someone is willing to pay for political calculus then they’re bad people.

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      “All you middle-east countries need to work together peacefully, or I will release Netanyahu unharmed.”