Yeah I wrote that poorly. Of course not all Gazans want the expulsion of all Jews out of Israel. I meant the Palestinian authority in Gaza - that is Hamas - is advocating for that.

Until some other authority rises up in Gaza (or forced to be there, like putting Fatah there), I don’t see an end to this conflict.

Having their land includes the depopulation of all the jews in Israel? Coz that’s what Palestinians in Gaza are advocating for, and I don’t see that happening anytime soon (or ever).

Classic Guardian.

Oh so all of Israel is bulldozed Palestinian houses? I guess then all the jews should leave the state alltogether and “go back to europe”, huh?

If you truly believe that will happen, and that we need to act towards that, then you have the same ideals as Hamas and I can hardly take you seriously.

Could also look up how the Israeli north or Gaza bordering kibbutz look like. For some reason, I don’t think you give a shit …

Even before the war, every week there were huge protests in Tel Aviv against the extremist government. Now they just have another thing to protest over - the hostages.

If in the next election Bibi will stay, then I guess a truly loud and large departure will happen.

They should increase the number of dead from 200 to 40,000. That’ll show those damn zionists!

Say what you want, but that “resistance” have only brought them pain and suffering which will last for generations.

I guess they didn’t hear the saying “be smart not right”.

Nice job defending from that Genocide, considering the difference in Gazans dead between 2022 and 2023/2024.

Saying Haredim and Soldiers in the same sentence is pretty stupid, considering all they do is study the Torah all day every day. I guess you meant the religious zionists movement, which are settlers and violent and should really be boycotted by every human alive.

I mean, if by “going outside” you mean - “crossing the Israeli border illegally” - then yes. They will get shot on site. I still don’t see how this has any comparison with the Holocaust.

Ok, cool.

How does anything you wrote have anything to do with what I wrote? Like, at all?

A. Who talked about peace? Who talked about who’s at fault? Read again what I wrote. All I said is that the situation is vastly different. This conflict requires peace to be made, the Holocaust wasn’t a conflict, but a straight up slaughter.

B. Israeli child soldiers are news to me… There are plenty of photos of Hamas marching with children with weapons, but none that I know of from the Israeli side

And yeah, I 100% agree that land just shouldn’t exist and that’s it.

Comparing this war with the Holocaust is stupid. Even if you ignore the numbers, the situation itself is completely different. Palestinians are armed, hostile and a threat. German Jews were just harmless citizens, some even being in the German army, defending the country.

First person I saw on Lemmy who actually has a braincell.

Is it that hard to see that one side’s goal is revenge, and the other’s goal is security?

Ah yes, because what we need is more hostilities.

Has 7.10 taught you nothing?

Username checks out.

I don’t think there’s a single person on the planet who doesn’t want Netanyahu gone from the Israeli government.

He failed guarding Israeli lives

He failed guarding Palestinian lives (didn’t really try tho)

He failed disabling Hamas

He failed bringing the hostages back

He caused Israel to be the most divided it has ever been, hence the most right wing government is right now in office

And all just to not be in jail. Fuck Netanyahu.

A monopoly isn’t inherently bad, but a monopoly by a state is pretty bad. It means they can exert political pressure over you using that sector’s influence.

Heck, look at Russia and gas. It impacted tons of people all over the world, and if the world hadn’t collectively said “fuck you Russia we’ll handle ourselves without you” - then countries like Germany wouldn’t have a choice but keep buying Russian Gas.

That’s a political power you really don’t wanna give to anyone, especially not China.

Yes, competition could restart, but that’d take time. And you don’t always have that time. Again, see Russia and gas as a nice example for that.

And what’ll be after the disbandment? Hamas who train children with guns and parade naked bodies? Or the PLO who fund families of suicide bombers?

The world either needs to treat Israel as Russia (risking them thinking “we’ve got nothing to lose” and actually genociding Gaza) Or to take the security role off of Israel, and manage Palestinians instead of Israel, who prefer dead Gazans over dead Israelis.