Non-americans really love this weird bogus narrative.
That’s probably because the loudest and most overly defensive ones are the Americans you’re most likely to encounter and remember in online arguments and on American news, so that colors the perception. Especially when you don’t live amongst the more reasonable majority of Americans 🤷
well if an american does respond to this it proves them right if they dont respond it doesnt prove them wrong its a bad argument for an otherwise pretty dumb claim
unless americans do care i hate america and am american so idrk
I’m starting to get this feeling too. Most of the Americans I know, myself included, rip America a new one at any given opportunity.
Nobody talks more shit about America than Americans.
Sometimes it’s a case of you can make fun of your own country but no one else is allowed to.
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I know seriously lmao. I mean I know it’s anecdotal, but I’m in the US and my friends and I constantly criticize the US. Most people I know tend to agree with most criticisms, myself included.
American: makes any sort of joke about any country, even if it’s the smallest most unoffending thing
Person from that country : ur children get shot in schools
We might overuse that comeback, but at least we don’t have school shootings.
Sure, maybe it’s crass for me to mock you for something so traumatic, but on the plus side I have never personally murdered a child so I think I’m doing just fine.
At least over here we do have some school shootings even with stricter European gun control laws. It‘s just not as prevalent as in the US.
I guess sometimes overly criticising the US can be seen as some kind of envy. The freedom we admire but the shortcomings we don’t want to have or admit. It‘s just that this extreme bipartisanship and reluctance to talk civilly with each other is disheartening to see.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Many wonderful people live in this country. We have so much to do - and yes, we are plagued by many horrors - but we persevere.
You ever considered that maybe the US deserves to be ridiculed for seeing children die and choosing to do nothing about it?
I understand it’s a touchy subject, but come on. It’s a serious stain on the US. The US deserves immense criticism for it.
If you’re allowed to mock children deaths from a mental Healthcare crisis can we mock you for your roving gangs of rape squads?
German link: https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2023/vergewaltigung-im-goerli/
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Right wing sources, yay.
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If you honestly compare Germany and the US, you will notice that the prevalence of rape is much higher in the US (US: ~43/100k vs. Ger: ~15/100k, source: statista.com). Comparing gang rape specifically is more difficult though, because the US doesn’t seem to keep track of that (or at least i couldn’t find absolute numbers). According to Wikipedia 22.8% of rapes with female victims where gang rapes. That makes ~9/100k in the US vs ~1/100k in Germany.
Then again I don’t think statistics regarding a lot of crimes are easily comparable. There might be differences regarding underreporting and legal definitions that skew numbers in different ways.
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Even more “whataboutism”
It’s not whataboutism when it’s on topic. You should look up that word. Also, anecdotes don’t matter when you try to compare things. Statistics do though.
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mental health may be one of the source causes but the cultural enabler of prolific gun ownership and worship is the missing key no other country has
edit: I will add many Americans here are pretty antigun which is great, I just wish there were another 300m like you
The overwhelming majority of so-called school shootings are single-target attacks over gang/drug disputes carried out by poor inner-city kids. They’re victims of poverty and mental health, no amount of overnight gun reform will fix the illegal guns that these kids have access to.
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One of them is a stereotype based on ignorance and racism.
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The other one is children getting shot at schools.
Funny how both of these things come from the US.
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Huh? Americans are like the most willing to admit their country is shit of like anywhere of the Lemmy audience… America fucking sucks, sign American. I had some dude from Pakistan super mad at me for saying women are second class citizens there the other day. Apparently they treat women super well, according to that angry guy anyway. I’m still pretty sure they don’t.
As always, these things can’t be generalised. Every country has people that talk about their own problems, and every country has “patriots” that will deny anything is happening. There are just a lot of Americans on the internet, so people notice those who relentlessly praise America more.
After all, few countries literally ingrain “[country] exceptionalism” into their population in their school system. Many Americans, while thinking they are pointing out problems, still say “but it’s still better than almost any other country at X”.
Romania doesn’t ingrain Romanian exceptionalism, but it does keep a lot of the REALLY horrible things Romanians have done out of the history classes.
Starting soon, the Romanian holocaust and communist period are going to be taught in high school history classes. AUR (basically our Republican party) is completely flipping their lid right now. They’re a small party, but very loud and aggressively ignorant.
Sounds like 'murica
Stay strong, my friend
I haven’t encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.
“Hey, isn’t nati the one that drone strikes weddings?” “No, that the US, that us.” “But america is part of nato…” “Yes, but you can’t just” “Why would nato do that?”
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The Ukraine conflict isn’t a RU - US proxy war in the traditional sense but it’s worth noting that the overwhelming majority of foreign aid to Ukraine has come from the US, more than double the amount of aid given by the EU as a whole. It’s not hard to assume that Ukraine would be in a much worse place without America’s support.
Yea, of course it has, the Budapest Memorandum says they have to help, it’s a defensive pact they got in return for giving up nukes. But people are pretending the US is like the instigator and driver of this conflict even though they are literally just one of the countries providing aid to Ukraine.
You aren’t totally wrong, but
And if you look at it by gdp the US isn’t even top 10 and the US, UK and northern Ireland are the only countries with a pact obligating them to help Ukraine.
Wait I thought we hated ourselves?
I’ll just say that I’ve had different experiences for the most part.
It usually doesn’t bother me unless it’s something like this
American- criticizes something foreign
Every single reply to that comment- “School shootings!! Hahaha!! Dead kids!!! Hehehehe!!”
Or when they extropolate from America the country being shit, to every individual American being shit for having the audacity to have been born here.
Most of us would also rather it wasn’t like this, but our families, friends, and livelihoods are here, so generally speaking it’s not practical to just up and leave. And our political system is to broken for us to really fix via voting
Trash on the country all you want, I’ll join in with you - but don’t blame the folks who are just trying to live the best we can in this fucked up country
This recently
- French people rude. Haha yeah.
- Greek people cheap. Okay you got us.
- Americans so fucking stupid. Hah wait. That’s it? That’s the joke?
This I don’t understand. Where is this coming from and who honestly would be okay with being called a big dumb dildo and laugh along like it’s such a well known fact about their country? We’re a lot of things, act like we own the world and everyone owes us money and gratitude, eat like shit while letting everyone know how to be healthy, use little creamer cups instead of cream. We’re not idiots.
Kinda like how the entirety of France isn’t rude and not all Greek people are cheap
Exactly, the problem is the first panel, not the second. But there’s no monopoly on participation there.
We are pretty dumb though. On the whole. We’ve had a lot of our higher education people emigrate.
Americans do a lot of stupid things, but they are most likely to be self critical in this space. I think this meme should talk about Western Europe instead, because they have many problems, but they are so often never willing to accept criticism. They’re quick to call the US racist, but in my experience, Europe has so much racism it’s crazy it’s viewed as this anti racist place.
Ask any “America is so racist” European about their thoughts on the Roma people
Or turks. Or Moroccans. Or Africans.
Or other Europeans. Damn Europeans, they ruined Europe!
Americans when literally anything
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
I’m American and I can confirm this is true
Unless we’re talking protesting or voting. Then they’re asleep.
Nah. Democrats protest, Republicans vote. Funny how one of those groups wields a grossly exaggerated amount of political power.
American folks want to poke fun at other countries? I say no problem, break a leg! Actually please don’t because it’d probably bankrupt you.
Damn that smarts.
I’d go to get that burn checked but my annual deductible is more than a used car cost before the profiteering here drove up the car prices so high.
Don’t worry, health insurance is on the rise too!
When do we do this? Seriously… Show me. I’ll help you shit all over that miserable person.
I laughed… then cried. You’re not wrong.
As an American you can make fun of America all you want. It sucks here.
The only Europeans I’ve had a problem with are the Danes. They have absolutely no sense of humor.
Or was it the Swedes? I don’t know. I mean they’re right there together. They’re basically the same people right?
Hehehehehehe
There are only two types of people I hate. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch.
First of all: How dare You!?
They have absolutely no sense of humor. Or was it the Swedes?
It’s definitely the Swedes.
Denmark is the one next to France right? I forget
No, we’re Germany’s hat. Tiny, tiny hat.
Oh so you’re basically just Germany. Got it
Eingebunden.
Rather that than Swedish!
Bruh who you talkin bout I don’t give a shit about this fucked up country
Bruh take a look at the downvotes on this post compared to other posts.
Those are the people I’m talkin bout.
Maybe people are downvoting because it’s just not a very good meme?
No, it’s the children who are wrong.
“Everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler: A guide to online discussion”
You would say that, wouldn’t you Hitler!
There is a % of people in every country no matter what, trash talk and think their country is the best. They are often closed minded and ironically the type of person that others like them in other counties talk trash about. Best not to stoop down and let that % do what they are gonna do.
I think it’s definitely true that Americans get defensive when you criticize the US. I also think it’s true that a huge reason for that, is because the only thing the internet seems to enjoy doing at the moment is complain about the US—no one likes to hear their country that they’re living happily in trashed on constantly.
And I say that as someone who deeply enjoys complaining about the US
All/hot is exactly like this but the complete opposite
