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    I’ve been trying out the other fediverse platforms, based on how cool Lemmy is, and they all pale in comparison. It really is a neat little thing we’ve got going on.

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      I really do like Tildes for certain more predictably high-quality answers when its something serious or technical but it can seem a touch heavy-handed. Ultimately, I appreciate the rigor where its important to have that and filter the memes and general+local anaesthesia nonsense we all love and know Lemmy for ;)

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        Your post prompted me to have a look at Tildes. It looks alright, but a bit… dry.

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          Its not for everyone and that’s part of why its for me ;) Not that I’m elitist or anything, I just hate low-efforts and assholes, ne’r may the two meet here

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          It can be. Women or queer persons can potentially have a tough time there, too.

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            Can you elaborate or link me to some corroboration of that—it seemed remarkably progressive and reasonable in my limited experience

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              So, here’s the thing. There’s a difference between a space allowing people that don’t look or act like the people already in the group and accepting those people. In some places, inclusiveness ends as soon as you get in the front door. Tildes is one of those places.

              Now, don’t get wrong, I don’t think most of the people at Tildes are intentionally malicious or anything like that. And any large influx of people like the kind that would have happened with open registration after what went down on Reddit is going to cause mistrust and, sometimes, hostility. That’s just human nature. The difference is Tildes is intentionally protective of its culture.

              This came about by both a) restricting the development of niche (or minority) communities, and b) limiting invites so that the small trickle of people who come in are assimilated more easily. That culture–like so many of these types of places–started with mostly white men of privilege from the tech sector. All the good and bad that comes with that is going to propagate in such an environment.

              Even if Tildes didn’t originate in a culture that has a reputation for being homogenous and abrasive, this setup would still have lead to a certain type of group-think. Dismissive, and a little bit short on empathy and active listening. Martin Luther King Jr. talked about negative peace, where there wasn’t open hostility, just an absence of tension (as opposed to positive peace, which is the presence of justice). This is not dissimilar.

              This comment chain on Tildes is an example someone else shared.

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                My only argument I wanna make here is nobody knew my race or identity when I even asked for and summarily received an invite to Tildes (almost instantly!)

                Unless I’m making some perceptual or logical issue here, I would say that is a stark contrast to the vignette you sorta painted here.

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                  Again, it’s not about who they let in. It’s about how they respond to conversation that doesn’t mesh with their ingrained culture.

                  The conversation I linked is all about that.

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            Ya, that post was pretty wishsy-washy and sweeping, people can make their points without needing to resort to identity politics to give credibillity to non-credible or insufficient arguments they want to toss out there. From my experience, I could argue any point from whatever lens you can think of and I believe I could receive votes and recognition. I can even swear because the force of my argument will be sufficient to excuse any nominal crassness that I strategically use to intensify the reasonable claim I ultimately make from the relevant or hypothetical vantage point in question.

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    First weekend on Lemmy and I’m loving it.

    I’m noticing a very strong hard-left bent though, which suits me just fine, but it’s interesting to see how progressive this space is

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        People behave in normal distributions. By definition vast majority of people are in the centre. The extremists (outliers) scream the loudest and warp an observer’s perception but the actual population is still a normal distribution.

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    I’ve commented more here in this short time than my 10 years on reddit. I feel heard and I feel supported. Most people are civil and respectful and I really appreciate it. Thank you all.

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    Federation is just complicated enough to keep the dummies out. Also probably defederating the idiot instances and better content moderation.

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      I don’t understand the “it’s complicated” thing. Figuring out which instance to use was slightly confusing (I went with lemmy.world because it seemed to be the most popular at the time), but after that, it’s no more complicated than Reddit or any other social media site. Am I missing anything?

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          Yep. Presenting the user with a choice that they don’t fully understand (which instance should I choose? What even is an instance?) is a very big deterrent.

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            Bigger deterrent is presenting real choice than one they don’t understand

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        No, you tried something new, the unknown did not dither you. Weirdly, that was the “complicated” barrier.

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        Well, dummies is too strong a word tbh. its the people who didn’t take the 30 seconds to understand how they have been using e-mail, a federated service, their entire fucking lives and things worked well.

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    I love that there are so many geeks with such healthy understanding about the world.

    Religion? Pff, everyone pro-atheism.

    Climate change? Pff, everyone against corps.

    Open source software & privacy? Pff, lots of suggestions od what to do and what NOT to do.

    Lemmy is great.

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      I’m really not against going to church and being pro-social, as long as people are innoculated with critical thinking and common sense.

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        As a critical thinker, church is unlikely to be high on your list of socializing options - unless you’re conducting some kind of experiment.

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            As someone who sees religion as a scourge on society and the unfettered, tax-free existence of churches as little more than a symptom, I wasn’t crazy about the possible implication that church attendance was required in order for one to be considered prosocial.

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              I do if its a badly-behaving church that is doing that crap, otherwise they can really be a positive fixture of the community if its done right

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          Its not about the god stuff, its about community and getting out to meet and socialize with it. God is just the social lubricant in place of alcohol but lots of cool people, musicians particularly, younger people like myself to make friends, lunches, prizes, volunteering to help people in non-religious services, etc.

          Don’t give a flying fuck about god, “he” is most likely nothing more than a simulacrum at this point (as he always was), its just good people and really accepting ones depending on the church. Mine def is

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      I’m amazed these days at how acute my “bullshit-o-meter” is. Its pretty fucking hard to run any bullshit past me most days as of late. This format really is brain candy for my personality and knowledge aquisition

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    Lemmy has been helping me lots. Been feeling so isolated, this is the first social online platform I’ve been able to participate in years. Talking to actual humans. Being able to help other humans.

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    When I parted ways with reddit, when the API scandal happened, it was very timely. A lot of content from reddit was toxic for me. All the negative news, about environment, about how people are treated at their job, about how shitty companies are nowadays. Not to mention the rampant cynicism…

    I left all that behind, and it really helped me get the high ground (hey Anakin) against my mental health problems. I was dangerously flirting with a burnout. This break was very beneficial.

    When I saw that Sync for lemmy was available, I tried it. The facts that there are much less trolls here, much less cynicism (and also the fact that I’m now medicated) really help, and I feel now I can be among communities that aren’t too toxic for me.

    Thanks lemmy friends.

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    It does feel more like the old alien place before it became mainstream. I’d bet there are a lot of those old users that felt disenfranchised by the low quality bot voted stuff that moved to the various servers here.

    Unlike places like Tildes which essentially has been trying to recreate the alien experience, lemmy provides a new layer as well with the fediverse.

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    There’s no better platform on the fediverse because of how many people are here.

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    I’m just sick of the droves of low effort jokes on reddit. If you don’t have any content to add, then shut the fuck up.

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      Maybe a serious tag would help with that. There’s honestly better communities for that like Tildes and HackerNews. HN is still lightly tolerant of a little nonsense but Tildes is all-business. Does that sound more appealing to you in that regard? You might thrive there better than here but you decompensate by the lack of quantity of new content. Like, there’s always some new stuff but the volume is far less. A lot of people feel its too dead

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        It’s truly a sad day in this series of tubes when being serious is the exception rather than the rule.