No evidence that UFOs are aliens — NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific::NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific.
Science… making everything boring like usual. Bring back the good ol’ inquisition and the crusades. Let’s spice this shit back up!
I, for one welcome our Scientific overlords to our BoringEutopia
If you think scientific minds would be Eutopian overlords, you’ve never worked in academia.
As a child of an academic (although in the humanities), I would never have wanted my father or his colleagues to have been in charge of anything. Half of them were nuts anyway.
I don’t think science is boring at all. I eat up every new thing the Webb Telescope shows us.
I find it wild that people find explanation uninteresting and boring… Like, I get that it’s exciting to wonder and speculate about things, but I find getting real answers to be the most exciting. Expanding human knowledge is exciting, not boring.
Exactly! I don’t get it. Why don’t you want to learn new things? It’s like they feel that thinking is hard. Maybe that’s it?
Adjust the lens on the Webb to defect sarcasm, buddy.
Everyone wants X Files but it’s just countries spying on each other and military experiments. Anything fantastical like the mummies are news spectacles meant to drum up publicity. There’s no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction. If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.
It’s likely even more boring than that. These grainy, blurry, IR images are artifacts, birds, balloons, the Moon, commercial aircraft, stars, satellites, and other common things that can look weird from certain angles/perspectives/lenses/sensors.
I’d be super happy to be proven wrong but people really want to believe there’s more out there and it’s visiting us but I’m going to need more solid proof than some noisy and blurry images and some silly-looking chimera mummies in a box.
Yeah the vast majority are just artifacts or weather phenomena, and the only material evidence is clearly man made tech. Also when people describe aliens they, big surprise, match depictions in science fiction.
Tic tac was recorded on video by the navy accelerating at ~200G. It was also witnessed by 8 highly trained aircrew, including top gun graduates.
200g *if * they are interpreting what they see correctly. A sensor artifact doesn’t need to respect any flight characteristics.
Being experts in one field doesn’t make them experts in whatever may be causing the tic tac.
Mhmm Sure thing
Flir.mp4 at the bottom. NASA analyzed gofast which is the least interesting of the 3.
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Idk why these people are all denying these uaps when the government has literally come out and confirmed they are their videos and confirmed they they do not know what they are.
They’re probably just trolling to anger others. Or truly ignorant of the confirmations.
I think a lot of the people that completely write the UAPs off as a hoax, or dismiss them as a mistake, are at least slightly scared by the implications of what these observations could mean.
The UAPs seem to break our understanding of the laws of physics, and our military and intelligence communities seem to be genuinely stumped by them. Even if these craft are being controlled by an unknown government or group of humans, it is still terrifying that they managed to make such advancements while hiding them from the rest of the world.
I have always been pretty skeptical. I won’t even try to begin to claim I know what these things are, or where they come from. Despite that, the evidence that they exist is getting pretty hard to deny.
I just can’t think of another reason why so many people want to mock and avoid the topic, besides fear and angst. This could be one of the biggest discoveries or paradigm shifts of our entire history as a species, with or without aliens being involved.
For the person who downvoted, what’s your reason why? I’m honestly curious.
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If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.
Not just possible, but dirt cheap, otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we’re up to.
Really, the whole notion is a bit silly when you think about it rationally. If a society was advanced to the point of cheap FTL (which, I feel the need to point out, isn’t just “advanced technology” but “technology that operates in complete defiance to our most fundamental understandings of physics”), why on earth would they be dipping into the actual atmosphere, doing landings, or flying by private aircraft? Surely a society with such breathtaking technology could drop a single spy satellite into orbit and get every piece of info they could possibly want about us, especially now that we’re in the digital age.
I have no doubt that alien life of some sort is out there, very possibly it’s even prolific (though that doesn’t seem to be the case based on our admittedly limited observations of exoplanets), but there’s no rational basis for thinking that an advanced alien society would have either the means, nor the motivation, to constantly pop down to earth to screw with pilots, farmers, etc.
I like to make up weird theories in my head about it not being aliens but alternate earth people. What if every time it is actually a first-time visitor not knowing what it’s like here. They don’t expect us to have anything capable of bringing their experimental craft down and we do, to their surprise. Hence they always have different looking craft, different looking bodies, etc.
otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we’re up to.
Not because of the species, but because of the rare and unique planet?
There’s no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction.
What, only homosapiens can troll others?
“We don’t know what it is there for aliens” makes as much sense as “We don’t know where it all comes from therefore God”
There was a period of a few months around the 60 minutes interview with the pilots where I was pretty sad and bored, and it hit just the right spot for me to feel some hope that the world is interesting.
Which is also how a lot of people “find religion” fwiw
The thing we aren’t exploring or talking about in mainstream discourse is that UAPs might be terrestrial and non-human.
No, I’m pretty sure that is both being explored and talked about. People try to find natural explanations for these phenomena. Do you have a specific idea that should be talked about?
I had a hard time in another thread just convincing people that the subject of UAPs is worth any inquiry at all.
I am just chiming in because I feel that people who dismiss the topic in general will see this headline and say see nothing to see here case closed people who investigate this are crazy.
Whereas the phenomena is still very much present and should be investigated - for national security and aviation safety reasons at the very least.
I don’t think most people would say that UAPs shouldn’t be investigated. Look how much people freaked out over the Chinese spy balloon incident. The dismissal comes when people start to make baseless insinuations about extra terrestrial origin.
And FWIW, we absolutely do investigate UAPs (and by “we” I mean the government), again, it’s just in the context of “is this a foreign spy platform” not “is this a flying saucer”.
Yes but you have to consider how long the government has made a mockery of the topic. Public opinion is still struggling with accepting that the ufos/uaps are actually real. Once they accept that they might start thinking about what it might be.
If anyone is interested, I have posted a very detailed account of evidence supporting the existence of UAP (not aliens).
It contains admissions of their existence by the US government on multiple occasions and throughout multiple decades. I have included footage of UAP confirmed to be valid by our government, and a bunch of declassified government documents on the subject.
I don’t rule out the possibility of alien existence in the universe, and I don’t rule out that such entities could be responsible for the disruptive/breakthrough technology represented in UAP, but aliens and even the origin of UAP are irrelevant to whether or not the UAP themselves exist.
They do, and I have provided a tremendous amount of evidence supporting this from a rational and skeptical perspective.
And since the topic is being mislabeled as crazy Republicans, I’d like to point out I’m left-leaning and I’ve also included quotes and documentation of Democrats’ support of the topic, including Chuck Schumer and AOC. The truth is there is essentially unanimous support from the right and left in drafting UAP-related legislation. This is not a crazy conspiracy theory. It’s not like the anti-vaxxer lunacy. It is reality.
Aliens are Qanon:2
Extra-terrestrial are probably real just like the paedophilia and human trafficking… but these people are just using it for attention and division.
Qanon are retarded
FTFY 🤠
Did nasa release any evidence supporting the human traffiking and the other issue you mention? because they have not said it’s not real. NASA already made official statements acknowledging that there are uaps all over the world, they are now saying that they don’t have evidence that it’s aliens. they have not said it’s not real we have passed that point.
source: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/pentagon-nasa-no-earthly-idea-164000079.html
“There is no evidence to support that conclusion” is scientist for “no.”
No, it’s not. It’s scientist for we don’t know.
You’re missing his point. It’s not not knowing, it’s “current empirical evidence points to X conclusion”.
Science is always open to changing their conclusion based on new evidence. People take that as doubt while con-men bring them absolute answers with absolute confidence and mistake this for facts.
Exactly. Sorry if I expressed my thoughts all wrong. But that’s what I meant, that science always awaits new evidence.
my reply had nothing to do with “that conclusion” so you are not making any sense.
edit: Its sad that even after saying it repeatedly people are still conflating not aliens with not real. just to show how asinine this stance is, consider that there was no evidence that the chinese balloon that was taken down was aliens. so according to your logic the balloon is not real, hopefully that contradiction activates some neurons on the people that still conflate not aliens with not real…
What is “real” for a UAP?
your comment basically confirms you did not read my previous comment where i shared an example that nasa disclosed with a link. there is even a non blurry video of one…
I’m asking you to define your term. It confirms nothing.
We have many documented UAPs that have no explanation. That’s what he means by “real UAP.”
“No evidence of aliens” is not scientist for “no” here because we do have an unexplainable thing that, in the set of plausible explanations, includes “aliens.” NASA is saying there is no proof it is alien, so the entire set of plausible unexplained reasons is still in play
The way science works is we will slowly chip away at what that set contains.
Now stop being a dick.
It’s not “my term” you can find the meaning of real in the dictionary.
NASA already made official statements acknowledging that there are uaps all over the world, they are now saying that they don’t have evidence that it’s aliens.
Yes, of course UAPs are real, it literally just means “stuff in the sky that we don’t know for certain what it is”, what it doesn’t mean is “aliens”, hence NASAs statement
they have not said it’s not real we have passed that point.
Again, they said UAPs are real (which again, duh), not that aliens are real
I am not sure what is your point. It’s clear to me and It might be clear to you, but you should look at the comments and realize that a few people struggle to accept that its not a hoax.
I’d imagine that any person who says that UAPs aren’t real, isn’t aware of the actual definition of UAP. for which, frankly, I blame conspiracy theorists for conflating the term “UAP” with “aliens” just like they did with UFO
Yes. absolutely.
attention and division
Why is it always the dumbest claims that use the “divisive” line? Lol
Bro people just are divided. I don’t want to fuckin unify with Trump supporters.
I’m sorry if this sounds like a conspiracy, but I think that China and the boys are really pushing UFO disclosure on social media to pressure the DOD into releasing classified aeronautics research on hypersonic missiles and specialized military satellites- Check out https://www.darpa.mil/ if you want to read more about what technology the military has currently.
Plenty of conspiracy theories turned out to be true decades later.
K obvs
Seems like a dumb pr move from them tbh. Everyone is more likely to give them money if everyone thinks that they’re studying aliens.
That doesn’t mean they should lie and say they are studying aliens, but they should have just let people run away with their imaginations.
They are studying aliens, it’s just that when they think they might be looking at aliens it’s “organic molecules detected in clouds on Venus” and not “weird thing in the sky one time, iunno”.
Strong disagree. NASA is fundamentally a scientific organization, it’s absolutely their duty to bring a dose of scientific rationality to conversations about UFOs. And besides, NASA absolutely is studying aliens. They’re constantly doing observations of exoplanets for signs of life, as well as all the numerous missions across our solar system looking for non earth based life.
If people for some reason think that using some of the most advanced observation equipment ever developed to look for actual aliens is less exciting then tinfoiling over grainy video footage and talking about little green men, then that’s their own problem, not NASA’s. And giving into that kind of populism would just lead to public pressure on them to waste time and money chasing down conspiracies instead of doing actual science
Where did I say they should use their equipment for tinfoil stuff? I just said they should shut up and let dumb people give them money
Except those “dumb people” vote, and the people they vote for are the ones that determine which projects get funding and which don’t. I’d rather NASA continue to get funding for real science than getting all their funding funneled into investigating “tinfoil stuff”. NASA isn’t an autonomous organization, they ultimately can only do work on what congress gives them money to do
That’s fair. I retract my statement
