“That being said, I am happy to give up my right to vote as a trade for a significantly better quality of life. It’s cleaner, it’s safer. There’s more opportunity in mobility,” she said.
“There’s no one on this planet who could be that bad of a person that we need to assassinate just to keep them out of the presidency,” Christian said. “How radical the American culture and society is getting in its entirety is making me go, ‘I really need to get out of here.’”
Christian and Salah said they won’t be voting, and Do said she is still learning about the process for voting abroad right now.
“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”
Jesus fucking Christ.
Ya, that’s rough. That feels like a very immature take. The two parties are not the same, voting does matter, and I’d even argue that there are people so awful that assassination does make sense but I’m happy Trump survived because I think the Republican party would have been stronger without him.
I left the US, I’m between a millennial and gen z, and I left explicitly because I was worried about the future of the US and because moving abroad is akin to time traveling 20 years into the future. I have healthcare now, I live in a walkable city with great public transit, the crime rates are lower (although most places in the US aren’t super violent, the probability of getting murdered goes way down when you leave), I have 6 weeks vacation, essentially unlimited sick time, and I’m not allowed to work overtime.
Both parties are not the same but if Democrats won in a landslide in every single election both state and federal in every chamber and every seat, how many years would it take to achieve all of those same things. I have no doubt these policies would happen with the right people in office, with radical change to the party they could even happen quickly and I believe it’s what half the people want. But the two other outcomes are 50/50 with the parties and little gets done in a timely manner and worse the corrupt judges continue to error the system, or the Republicans win one big election just one more time and project 2025 starts getting a percent complete tracker and we slide back into the dark ages.
So I left. I believe if things go bad in the US historians will look at Trump’s first victory as a period of brain drain from the country. But that’s my two cents to go with this article.
“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”
Anyone who thinks only American politics are a joke is naive af, and needs to read more non-American news or history
The belief in that guy may indeed be partially to blame :D
Nooooo please stay working two jobs to afford to live while also being a medical emergency away from being homeless
Nooo please stay we want to profit from you
This is America, we will profit from them over there too.
Wait till they find out which 2 countries tax expats (Russia and US)… Leaving is still gonna cost ya.
What are they gonna do, send a debt collector to the consulate?
It’s moreso, unless that tax debt is paid, you’re never coming back to the US. Of course, some will say they never will.
Maybe not. It depends.
First, there is a long list of countries where you can deduct a lot of money from your salary if you pay tax in the other country. I think it’s like $90 thousand dollars now? So if you make less than that you don’t pay US taxes on top of your taxes where you are living.
Second, for basically the same list of countries you can deduct your taxes paid there from your US taxes.
The upshot is this only impacts countries the US empire doesn’t deem worthy (I don’t know which, sorry), or people who make a lot of money in low tax countries. I am told that both Switzerland and Japan fit that description.
So if you make $150k in Saudi Arabia then you’ll end up paying US tax on most of that I think. 😄
The US system of taxing their citizens abroad is unfair, but people living abroad vote in the last place they lived in the US, so they don’t have enough concentration of votes to matter. No politician is going to care if 0.02% of their constituents whine about unfair taxes when they have doners at home to appease.
60% of people under 30 didn’t vote during the last election, the majority of them support the Democrats.
“We can’t do anything to improve things at home, let’s move somewhere else.”
Fuck off, other countries aren’t your consolation prize, fix your own shit.
How can they move to another country? Countries aren’t just taking whoever shows up. Even Americans have to bring something to the table. Doctor? Engineer? Ok. Barista? HVAC guy? LOL good luck. Gen Z hasn’t figured out they’re stuck here. Time to start fixing shit.
Some countries like Geemany or Italy (some towns) will actually pay you a living wage if you are moving and are a professional, not much mind you, but enough to support you until you can up on your feet. There are other countries with similar programs but I don’t remember right now.
EDIT: I forgot the thing with Spain. If you have citizenship with any latin american countries, they will give you a work visa there super easy and cheap. So if you are an American GenZ who’s parents are Mexican, then you just got your Mexican citizenship thanks to a recent change in Mexico and can also apply to move to Spain.
For your skilled and educated workers, its very easy. Not to mention your neighbouring countries have experienced brain drain for an entire generation because of higher American salaries.
Prepare to experience brain drain as your best doctors, scientists and engineers easily move to other countries leaving you grasping to have enough people in critical areas.
This is one of the reasons the US excelled as a super power. Getting a constant import of the best and the brightest from around the world makes all your companies more successful and your army stronger and better equipped.
Millennials figured out it’s cheaper to send kids to college in Europe.
Gen Z graduates college in the EU, compares the living standards, and stays there.
This is brain drain, not American Asylees. Although that’s coming if we stay on this path.
The border will be closed and I’m not talking about people who want to get in…
Just like the original settlers!
People were leaving to join the tribes, so guards.
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Oh great, you’ve speedrunned the crazy republican playbook
It’s expatriates. Not ex-patriots.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expatriate
“Expatriate” is from the Latin “expatriatus” and meaning to leave the country of one’s origins or father specifically. It started in the 18th century as a word for exile, especially self-imposed exile; but now represents all those living in a country other than that of their birth.
I immigrated to the us as a child, now as an adult I’m considering a move to Europe for the quality of life. Immigration is not easy though but if the US becomes the hell hole the gop wants, I’m out dawg.
Speaking for almost every other country, please stay in the US. We don’t want you.
IDK, every generation has had challenges to face. If this generation thinks the answer is to move away and everything will be fine and dandy, I’m afraid they’re mistaken. You’re going to have to earn it and put in hard work, no matter where you go. And while the US has some issues that get magnified, the grass is rarely greener on the other side.
Spending a 1/10th of my income on rent instead of half of it makes things a hell of a lot easier.
Doubt you’ll answer which is fine but where’d you move from to? Sounds pretty drastic.
You’re just lacking in imagination and don’t really get how good life can be. Other developed countries actually want their citizens to live well.
Moving away does make everything better depending on where you move of course. The thing that’s difficult about it is the move itself, you need money at the very least and many countries have strict requirements for allowing folks to move there.
