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    No mixed feelings at all. I am unequivocally sad that we lost Richard Simmons today 😢😢😢

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    Nothing mixed. Fully sad he didn’t die and this will cement his win in the coming months. We’re fucked.

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      There’s still time for the DNC to swap Biden out for a more electable candidate and energize their own base again, for what it’s worth, though at this point I think the DNC wants to lose so they can secure more funding.

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        Yeah… Surviving that basically won him the election.

        Not if everyone making this assumption gets out and votes, rather than staying at home and assuming they’ve already lost. The left outnumber the right after all. Losing is a turnout issue.

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          Kinda crazy to think Biden can still pull this off. Furthermore, it happened in PA, a crucial state.

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            You could run a cabbage, but if everyone votes for them they’ve pulled it off. Voting is the difference between winning and losing.

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    Not mixed, the attempt does not improve or reduce his ability to run the country. What it does however is increase his chances of winning.

    Gives me Reagan and Hitler vibes.

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      Its disappointing. Good someone had the balls to actually try and show he is serious when he says the 2A is there to prevent fascism. Sad he failed.

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      That it does probably means that Americans deserve whatever lows their country will fall to.

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    After thinking about this REALLY REALLY HARD…offing him will do nothing to stop the creep of facism. You have an entire party now aligned with the idealogices that the 3rd Reich had. And it’s the entire party. MAGA killed the GOP after they got rid of Cheney. You cut one head off and 3 more will pop up identical to him…with vindication. Its going to be a yearly struggle and I’m afraid we won’t be able to hold them back forever.

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      There’s a reason the Allies kept trying to assassinate Hitler during WW2, and it wasn’t because they thought it was a bad plan to end the war.

      Not saying I agree or disagree with you. Just sayin’ how it happened last time.

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      After thinking about this REALLY REALLY HARD…offing him will do nothing to stop the creep of [fascism]

      Who would step in to replace Trump? Trump has worked hard to discredit anybody who could potentially challenge him. Strongmen often groom a son to take over for them, but only after they’ve been in power for many years. Trump might want Junior to take over, but I doubt even Trump’s hand-picked yes-men would accept Junior at this point.

      Instead you’d almost certainly get a power vacuum with various Republican factions trying to take over.

      You cut one head off and 3 more will pop up

      And those 3 would start snapping at each-other trying to become the dominant head. And, as long as they’re distracted snapping at each-other, they’re not going to be focusing on us.

      IMO, Trump is also the only thing holding this right-wing coalition together. As soon as he’s gone the factions are going to turn on each-other. The bad thing is that they’ve already shown that they’re going to get violent when they feel their grip on power is slipping. I’m sure this assassination attempt is going to lead to right-wing violence, and if it had succeeded it would have been a lot more violence.

      The most dangerous thing about Trump is that he’s he’s got almost half the US behind him. There are probably more cruel Republicans, and probably some who would be more effective at implementing their cruel policies. But, not many who would be able to get so much support and keep the coalition together.

      The Republican base is getting smaller each year as old people die. It’s not a popular platform with the younger voters. If the US can avoid a Trump win this year, the MAGA version of the Republican party will probably fall apart. Then it will be back to the regular corporatocracy that the US has been dealing with for decades. If he does win… well I’m glad I don’t live in the US.

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        I believe the same. Want it or not, Trump has the charisma that nobody else in the party does. And the luck. My only hope to stop the madness was to have Trump losing the election then dropping dead by natural causes after. That’d be safest way to take all his followers out of the spell. I really don’t see any other way for his cult to end. Then the right wing extremists go back to hate in their closets and, if democrats are smart, keep having more moderate candidates like Biden and reign the extreme left as well.

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          It would have to be a big loss. If it’s at all close, there’s going to be a lot of violence.

          The only other thing I could think of that could end things without a lot more violence is if a scandal finally stuck to him and resulted in him losing support. Like, the Epstein stuff. The right has spent years getting their base riled up against pedophiles and groomers. If people believed that Trump really was a pedophile, it could finally sink him. But, nothing seems to stick to him.

          Whatever happens, I hope scholars can study him and figure out why he’s so charismatic to so many people. I don’t get it. I look at him and I see a dumb, fat blow-hard who lies constantly and can’t even string a sentence together. Yet, for some reason, other people look at that and see a hero.

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    No mixed feelings, I’m absolutely devastated about how much harder saving the USA will be from today.

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      Disappoint in not enough to describe my feelings.

      I feel like I’m blocked under a huge building about to collapse at any moment and a huge piece of the support pillar just came off…

      …that’s how i feel right now.

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    My feelings weren’t mixed on Trump. I hope the next person has better aim.

    I was just plain old sad about Richard Simmons, Dr Ruth, and Shannen Doherty. They all deserve better.

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    Pessimistically, I don’t see how the system gets better without full collapse.

    But wow imagine a few normal candidates running again. Imagine getting to vote for politics and not in a rule-breaking popularity contest.

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      That’s a bit drama-queenish.

      We had a good thing before Trump ran for president and won.

      Once he’s gone things will go back to normal over time.

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        Trump is just the logical conclusion of the christo fascist takeover of the Republicans. It will be there when he’s gone

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          I understand your position but I think you’re wrong. Fascists always, without exception, need a “charismatic” leader like the Nazis with Hitler or the Russians with Putin. There’s currently only Trump who can fill that role. It’s of course possible that another such person appears out of nowhere, but I don’t see anyone on their side. Trump was a TV star and tacky racist celeb (birthed) since the 80s. His brand isn’t new, he build it over a long time. Who do you think would fill his shoes if yesterday’s attempt had succeeded? There’s no one.

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            Raegan was a similar character previously. I don’t doubt they will arise again. Certainly, there are many Republicans with the same reactionary politics.

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            This is Great Man Theory. Trump would not be popular if his policies and stances weren’t popular, and there are plenty of replacements.

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              Yet who is a better fit for that theory than Trump, from the perspective of his fans, at least?

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                That’s not what Great Man Theory is. Trump is an excellent example of why Great Man Theory is wrong. Great Man Theory just states that history is guided by influential figures, which is wrong. The Material Conditions of society determine what ideas dominate, and thus people appearing to be influential become popular.