Automatic draft, but notvoter registration…
Just because the politicians want to grab you out of your life and use you as cannon fodder doesn’t mean they want to actually be as accountable to you as they’re supposed to.
Politicians voting for mandatory draft should be on the frontline. Pieces of shit.
Automatic registration for Selective Services, not automatic draft. That’s very different. This is actually helpful in keeping people out of prison or getting fined for not registering.
But yes, this absolutely proves that they could automatically register people to vote with no designated party affiliation.
I might catch hate for this but I never understood why it wasn’t automatic the entire time since it’s illegal to not register.
Because there has not been a draft since the 70s, where automatic registration was not feasible.
Yes, but failure to register was a felony.
Just say you have bone spurs
Pretty sure that doesn’t get you out of the registration, only actually serving. I think Trump was registered and said the bone spur thing later
It was not automatic so rich people can avoid it. I have never heard of someone facing criminal charges for failing to register. I have heard that failing to register can impact eligibility for college financial aid and scholarships.
I have heard that failing to register can impact eligibility for college financial aid and scholarships.
And this is why I hate the fucking neoliberals so much. As bad as the conservatives are they don’t expect me to agree with them, they just want my money. Neoliberalism demands that you not only pay a shit ton of money for student loan debt that you also internalize that you deserve to because you were privileged. They have developed economic original sin
Yeah — seems like they just want to test people
It should be automatic, and it is now. Why did I have to worry about it 40-years ago? Now? Now worries, done deal. Nothing has changed.
Of course lemmy thinks that serving means you’re on the front lines as a grunt with an M4.
Remember kids, you can be a draft dodger and be president 😎👉👉
Which would be fine if said draft dodger wasn’t a chickenhawk.
You’re going to have to be more specific, I can think of at least 2 that could fit that description.
Things are only bad if Donald Trump does them.
No, it’s also bad when Rush Limbaugh and Ted Nugent do it.
Also Bush II’s questionable service record.
You mean like John Kerry? No, wait, he served in Vietnam and was shot at. Who are you thinking of?
This will definitely get the kids voting Republican.
GOP 2024: We want you to die.
Disagree, just make the draft also affect women so it’s not sexist
I agree also require everyone to reregister at 65. Maybe grandpa and granma will think next time
“Hmm I really want lower oil prices but having to be drafted and assigned combat roles in the middle east is something I don’t want”
But a village of 50 men and 50 women might be able to survive with 40 of those men dead. It most likely won’t survive with 40 of those women dead.
This is why, when shit is so bad that we’re drafting men to fight, we need to let the women stay home if they choose to.
You can always let immigrants in as long as you win the war
Good news for you, I guess… this includes making women sign up.
Not what the article said
So people can be automatically registered for the draft, but not automatically registered to vote? Seems like bullshit.
You didn’t think the government would actually do something for you, did you?
Fully automated luxury war slavery
For one, I think this was already required. I remember having to enroll in selective service.
For two though, whoever calls another draft is dead in the water. It’s commonly accepted that starting an actual draft is political suicide.
That said, it would be nice if we could codify that and ban the draft.
You are required to sign up but they usually only can enforce it in ways such as applying for a driver’s license or voter registration. Maybe more kids aren’t applying for drivers licenses and therefore aren’t signing up.
the federal student loans and grants would not be dispersed if you were not signed up by a certain date
That was apparently repealed in 2020.
Wish it would’ve happened sooner. There was some issue with my school’s financial aid office every freaking semester. A week before classes started, I would get a letter that all my financial aid was canceled for failing to register, and I’d have to go in and prove I had. After the 4th time, they finally took a photocopy of my registration and had me sign an affidavit and appended it to my file.
i did not know that, thank you for letting me know, it’s good that they repealed that, for my area it wouldn’t have made a difference for myself registering as our high school had all of the males do it as part of a civics class.
I had to apply at the post office. I’m pretty sure there was a penalty if I didn’t, like a fine or jail
$250k fine, but they haven’t prosecuted anyone since the 80s, and even then, it was only a handful and typically only when the person went around bragging about it in protest.
The bigger deal is being barred from federal employment, contracts, grants, and other programs. Some states may deny drivers licenses because of it. And it used to mean you couldn’t receive federal financial aid for college, but that changed in 2020.
I wouldn’t put it past the Republican party to bring conscription to the table. Probably with all kinds of exceptions and loopholes to either keep their own kids out of it entirely or guarantee cush domestic desk jobs to show how patriotic they are. Everybody else gets to line up with a rifle.
Edit: Well, while I was baselessly speculating, this happened to come up on Lemmy: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/06/trump-world-mandatory-military-service-washington-post/
And with extra psychological torture to the undesirables, and will be sold to their voting base as “antidote to the LGBTQ+ movement”.
It would be disastrous for Republicans. Independents and moderates would be furious
I never registered. I got my draft card while I was in boot camp in the '80s. Never filled it out.
Anything that actually required a draft would result in a nuclear exchange before the draft could be called.
If there is a legitimate reason for a draft, a draft may not be necessary anyway. Unless the enemy is offering a peaceful arrangement to everyone they meet, or there’s no way to get your family to safety, I think most people would willingly fight.
Some folks inherit star-spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask 'em, “How much should we give?”
Ooh, they only answer, “More! More! More!” Yo
Fuck the draft. Dodge the draft.
If you can dodge a draft, you can dodge a ball
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Seems like a pretty good Common Sense legislation really. You already have to register by law so making it automatic would be easier for all of us and avoid anyone getting in trouble for something stupid. I don’t see a downside to this. I would like to see it apply to voting registration too however.
Haha good one…voting registration is not exactly in vogue these days.
Well, voting registration as it’s implemented in America isn’t exactly in vogue. As in “oh, you just need to get an ID to vote from now on.” And people without ID need to do some extra paperwork and the office is open 5 minutes every other week, just go through the door located behind the acid moat and bear traps.
Over here in Finland: Government has a comprehensive record of citizens, they know where everyone lives and who’s eligible to vote. So they send you a letter. “Here’s how to do the advance voting, here’s the polling location you need to go to on election day, Also here’s how to draw the numbers, so this will be less confusing. Just bring this notice card with you. And an ID. If you don’t have an ID, visit the police station and they’ll give you one for free.”
In Italy, you have to travel to whatever city you have residence in to vote. A lot of (mostly progressive) people have to fly across the country to cast their vote, apparently it sucks for them
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I’m not male but I did register for the draft when I turned 18. I remember doing it on my taxes as weird as that sounds.
I’m for this. Don’t vote for war mongers when you or your kids or grandkids could be drafted for war.
Registration is already required,and has been for decades. This only automates the thing so people aren’t breaking the law. Super simple stuff.
So I’m not sure what your point is?
That I’m pro this. That is the point. I can be pro something that is already the law and be pro things that increase the automation of it.
War monger kids and grandkids finagle indefinite deferments.
That would be nice. It is rather demeaning to sign a paper promising to die for your country when needed, in order to get voting privileges.
