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PugJesus@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

The New Trolley Era

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The New Trolley Era

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PugJesus@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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    Sir, this place is for memes, not news reporting

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      Speak for yourself, memes are my primary source of information /hj

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        /hj? Hand job?

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    You are always liable, In both cases.

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      I take it this is just a hypothetical situation. Eventually it will be case.

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      I assumed future case where Level 3+ autonomous driving was in play and the human is not the responsible party.

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      Right, unless it’s that new Mercedes and you’re in traffic on one of a specific set of roads under 40 MPH.

      Think they’ve sold a handful.

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    Since the fine is meaningless to Elon, this becomes an ethics problem. Swerve, killing 1 person and be charged with manslaughter—or kill 5 people and be found not guilty.

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    Realistically though, when incidents occur, Tesla pretends FSD wasn’t on and they’ll never pay anything.

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      It’s level two they don’t need to pretend. It’s always the driver’s fault. What will be interesting is Mercedes level three turning itself off right before a crash.

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        Nevertheless, people still want to know. Tesla apparently has a habit of turning of FSD less than a second before a crash happens. And, Tesla does publicly disavow responsibility. If FSD does something entirely ridiculous like suddenly veer off the road or brake unexpectedly, the driver may not have time to respond. Check out this article and lawsuit for instance:

        https://www.denver7.com/news/evergreen/teslas-autopilot-drove-car-into-tree-killing-colorado-man-in-fiery-crash-lawsuit-alleges

        Tesla’s advanced Autopilot driving system malfunctioned and caused one of the electric car maker’s Colorado employees to drive off the road and die in a fiery crash, a newly filed wrongful death lawsuit alleges.

        The car was too mangled to be analyzed as to whether FSD was on. The surviving passenger said yes, the driver was using it. Musk denies it:

        https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon-musk-clarifies-fsd-not-enabled-model-3-fatal-dui-crash/

        “He was not on FSD. The software had unfortunately never been downloaded. I say “unfortunately”, because the accident probably would not have happened if FSD had been engaged.”

      • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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        what levels are you refering to?

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    In Germany nobody cares about if Autopilot was on, because you are still the driver of the car and responsible for everything it does. The Law says you need to be able to react to it, if you do not you are the only one responsible

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    You could pretend to swerve but still clip them all except for the hot chick. Then jump and pretend to save her from your evil car. So that’s how you get lai…wait what was the question?

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    The troll (Elon) problem

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