What are the positives and the negatives?
In a car, no not really, that is going to make everything in your life a lot harder and less comfortable. I feel like a car would be a last resort, I have no other options, kind of thing.
I lived in a van for just over 2 years though and honestly I miss it. I don’t just miss the extra money I had from not paying rent but I also miss being able to stay where ever I wanted and waking up next to the beach or in a forest.
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I had a friend who did it for 2 years, he rented a storage unit that was big enough for his car after a few sketchy nights. Put the car in and pull the door down, set up the cot, unroll the sleeping bag and settle in for the night. It had the added advantage of not having to keep all his stuff in the car at all times so he could maintain some semblance of a normal appearing life.
We had no idea he was doing it.
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Going to the bathroom in the middle of the night sounds like a negative
I would do it if it were legal.
As a libertarian who tends to get along really well with socialists, it boils my blood that living in one’s car is illegal. There is absolutely no reason reason for that law other than “fuck poor people”.
Poor people are an inconvenience. They often don’t produce anything of value, and they aren’t consumers on a large enough scale to be worthwhile. So they should be banned.
I’m sure some 1% type has said this at sometime.
Car, no. Camping trailer… only thing holding me back is convincing the wife.
I can attest it feels like being in a cage and that it’s one that’s prone to the elements.
Solution: don’t use it when you’re drunk as shit
What would that improve if the vehicle is stationary?
Well, ya wouldn’t be able to back it into a pond, that’s fer sure.
If there are floods, it can still be swept away.
Valid point!
Absolutely not. There are no upsides to it that would outweigh the negatives, and I have other options long before getting to that point.
Definitely not. I would rather consider moving somewhere else, where the rent isn’t that bad. Unfortunately that’s not an option for many people.
I would already be living in a vehicle, but I can’t drive (low vision) so it’s never going to be an option for me.
About 10 years ago I was looking into bike towed campers as a security plan for an unstable housing situation, only to learn they are illegal to tow in my country. You can own one, sleep in one, and tow it on private property, but to move it from one property to another legally I’d need to pay someone with a car to put it in a car trailer, then unload my camper at the destination.
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Could be pretty comfortable if you outfitted like a Sprinter or something like that.
Yes and it was a great time!
Now I’ve got a roommate in an apartment that costs $725/month with everything but electric included and a decent paying job!
I was pretty close to needing to, and may be again soon. Needing to shower is a big issue, as is needing a place to keep my dog when I’m at work. Fortunately I have a good network of friends that I’m pretty sure I’d have a couch to crash on for a month or so but it is a perpetual concern in the back of my mind.
Without a legal mailing-address, you will be blocked from participating in much of the online-economy.
“no shipping address?” XOR “we won’t ever ship to rural people, P.O. boxes, or any other non-CITY bullshit.”
There’s a book which discusses this, named “The Addres Book”, by Deirdre Mask.
Some jurisdictions may require you to be treated as a valid citizen, even with a P.O. box “address”, but I don’t know of any jurisdiction that does that.
No address?
Your life will be stomped, & from what I’ve seen, you get deemed a vagrant/homeless by enforcement, too.
You can kind of get around this in my country by putting in a long term mail redirection at the post office. You can just keep updating your drivers licence and other paperwork at the old address. Its only a matter of time till it gets found out but it will probably work for a fairly long time.
In the US you can get around this by renting a PO Box and using the post office street address + your box number as the “Unit” number. There’s a form you have to sign to give them permission to handle third party packages for you but I don’t think it costs anything extra.
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