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ickplant@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

First Human Patient to Receive a Neuralink Brain Implant Used it to Stay Up All Night Playing Civilization 6

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First Human Patient to Receive a Neuralink Brain Implant Used it to Stay Up All Night Playing Civilization 6

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ickplant@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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First Human Patient to Receive a Neuralink Brain Implant Used it to Stay Up All Night Playing Civilization 6 - IGN
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The first human recipient of a Neuralink brain implant has shared new details on his recovery and experience of living with the experimental assistive tech.
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  • restingboredface@sh.itjust.works
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    It sounds like things are going well for this guy and that is great and all, but how much would we honestly expect to hear if it wasn’t going well?

    This story is circulating all the media outlets and feels more like PR than a legit example of how this procedure is actually going to work for most people.

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      It let him control a mouse with his brain, which is actually great since he’s a quadriplegic. Getting it if you aren’t fully paralyzed would be stupid.

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      Patient 2: “unresponsive”

      Two years later

      Patient 27: “unresponsive”

      Patient 28: “Guys! We’ve got a live one here!”

      • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
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        “Patient 28, you are now Patient 1.”

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    My only concern is that people are going to think that he only stayed playing civ all night because it’s exciting to do something. But that’s not the case.

    Innocent people are going to try this game and keep saying “one more turn”.

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      Just one more turn AAAANNND it’s dawn!

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      loool, we need to team up with schools and warn the kids of the danger that civ poses to their health and their future

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      Yeah he should have played a good game

    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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      Because this patient playing Civ 6 is the modern version of Joshua playing games on WOPR.

      Lets hope the patient is not named Mohandas.

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    I think it’s an amazing advancement and that’s awesome for a quadriplegic person to interact with the world.

    The part that I haven’t heard anyone mention is what is the life cycle of these chips. Computers and cell phones all become outdated so quickly. Are recipients guaranteed upgraded chips as they become available?

    I was reading an article recently about people who have had implants in their eyes that help them to see become obsolete. One because the company stopped supporting the specific version that was in the patient. The other because the company had gone out of business.

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      Even if the chip never went obsolete, the scar tissue build up around implanted brain devices interferes with signal over time and they need to be replaced.

      Also, each installation/replacement has a few percentage point chance of leading to a life threatening infection.

      Unless both those issues are solved, irrespective of obsolescence this is only the sort of thing that makes sense for patients who feel that their life is effectively over without it and have low risk thresholds for treatment options.

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      The story of “Second Sight” and the folks that depended on them is pretty sad. I hope there’s some kind of backup plan in case the company goes under, gets acquired, or decides to abandon existing technology. Like placing the key tech in a trust of sorts.

      https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete

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      This tech is extremely experimental and nowhere near ready to market as a consumer device that a regular person can purchase, so a lot of those questions don’t really have answers.

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      Part of the study is to see how long it lasts. It’s replaceable in theory but there’s things like are there complications with redoing it (e.g scar tissue) to be explored.

      As a human trial, he may never get an upgrade, and it might fail in a few months unexpectedly.

      It’s part of the risk of being in a trial vs waiting until it’s a finished product.

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    The start of the article is confusing. Given what it tells us that the patient has been doing, it sounds like the chip only acts as a receptor of the brain’s outputs, this is, the chip should act on the brain as little as possible. However,

    The billionaire also hinted at the time that the implant was functioning well and had detected a “promising neuron spike”.

    Which makes it sound like the very opposite. Honestly it wouldn’t surprise me if Elon had no goddamn idea about what the implant does yet rushed to comment on it anyway.

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      Or, he’s just a liar.

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      ‘Spike’ probably is refering to a shape on a graph and not any physical harpoon like component.

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      for me it just sounds like the chip is receiving signals from neurons and the “spike” is basically a signal.

      short: the chips works well in receiving signals and you can control the mouse by that. so nothing sending hut just receiving and getting a clear signal.

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    I was expecting the source to be The Onion

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    I have 200 hours in Civ 6, and have yet to win a game on anything except points. The latter eras are such a slog.

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      You almost need to pick your victory condition at the start and focus everything on that, and what you can’t focus on that win condition you focus on denying the win for someone else, whoever happens to be winning by that point. Generally the same will be over before you get to the modern era.

      Religion and war are the sloggiest.

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    I’m pretty sure this could be done non-invasively like 5 years ago if not 10

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      You can literally go on youtube right now and watch people play racing games and other things with those brainwave readers or whatever they are called.

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      I mean, the guys quadraplegic. They have this computer controller you can control with your mouth, but I’m sure just thinking about moving thr mouse and the mouse moves is far easier.

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      People staying up all night playing Civ?

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        Lol, take the upvote go back to playing civ

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      I can play Civ with my fingers right now, no brain-implant required.

      Wild, I know.

      Edit: Ignore me, I’m talking out of my ass.

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    Fuck Elon, but that’s awesome for this guy.

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    Time to introduce him to Hearts of Iron

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    I mean it’s basically the definition of “one more turn…” so is it really that special?

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    Civ VI over V? Philistine.

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    Imagine letting Elon Musk drill a hole in your head just so you can make the mouse move with your mind

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      Let’s separate the asshole from the accomplishments please, I don’t think we should deny people potentially life changing technology because it’s associated with some rich dickhead.

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        The company and its accomplishments are pretty sketchy though

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          I see this repeated, but no sources provided.

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            I can google it for you if you’d like…

            https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musks-neuralink-may-have-illegally-transported-pathogens-animal-advocates-2023-02-09/ (or https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/9/23593011/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-implant-transportation-department-investigation-contaminated)

            https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/neuralink-musk-fda/

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2024/02/26/experts-criticize-elon-musks-neuralink-over-transparency-after-billionaire-says-first-brain-implant-works/?sh=2ae1547e4915

            https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/statement-physicians-committee-neuralinks-purported-patient-implant

            https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/us-lawmaker-seeks-answers-on-fda-inspection-of-musks-neuralink/articleshow/108797584.cms?from=mdr

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              Did any of those go anywhere? People love just throwing shit and seeing what sticks. Nothing I’ve seen have shown any actual evidence, nor these investigations leading to anything…

              But sure perpetuate misinformation, you do you mate.

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      I hate Elon Musk, but come on, man. Use a bit of that critical thinking I am sure you have in the back of your brain.

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