i think we need Cracked-style articles back. desperately. or like, a guy doing a weird thing and writing a piece on it. sites like those are declining faster than the glaciers.

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    A lot of informational content is now in video format instead of text/photos. I can barely understand their poor English in those videos.

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      It’s very easy to process an actual article and evaluate whether it actually does what I’m looking for enough to read it properly.

      Video doesn’t provide that. It’s a bad format unless what you’re doing is actually visual in nature. Reviewing a video game? Sure, provided you’re spending meaningful examples of the actual mechanics. Reviewing a video camera? Absolutely.

      If your video is just you talking at a camera, it almost definitely shouldn’t be a video.

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      Googling so many “how do I do X?” type of questions have top-results of 10-minute videos where someone has their cluttered Desktop in full 1920x1080 and then they open the tiny command prompt in a small window (it’s clear they have no idea how to record a video), where they clumsily type commands they clearly don’t understand, and fumble through the entire process.

      I just needed a single command. It should have been a 1-second result at the top of search, not shitty videos or SEO dynamically-generated shit site that are trying to sell me something.

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      I never thought I’d be one to watch videos at 2x but there’s so much “content” out there that it helps to get through it plus lots of videos are padded anyway.

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    Search engines with actual results, now every search is about trying to sell you something. Searching for a product used to pull up its manufacturer and specs, now its just where to buy it or something like it.

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    Articles written for people not for search engines. I’m very familiar with SEO and you can see very clearly when article is created for ranking rather than movie readership. Unfortunately when 90% of traffic for many sources is Google you have no choice but to write articles this way.

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      God yes.

      I’m a professional writer for a newspaper. We’re also occasionally asked to put up SEO commercial text for our advertising partners. And good god, they look like they were written by a lobotomised monkey on a malfunctioning typewriter.

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        Are you not called journalists anymore? Or are you just lying?

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          One can write for newspaper and not be a journalist. Columnist for example.

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            In fact, at our newspaper only about a quarter of the writers are ‘real’ journalists with journalism degrees, including myself.

            From my personal experience (20 years in radio, 8 in newspapers), even most actual journalists don’t really call themselves journalists. I tend to refer to myself as a writer in general, since I also do commercial copy, I write reviews and handle all sorts of general writing and public contact.

            Journalist is not a protected job title. Anyone can call themselves a journalist. Even that other poster. Because of that, I tend not to use it as a job title, since it’s been devalued a bit by everyone with a blog or vlogging channel calling themselves journalist.

            I’m seriously wondering what the other poster’s point was…

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            Ah yes! The elusive columnist! None of those ever attended J school or are held to journalism standards. They can definitely print whatever the fuck they want without any sort of fact finding or double checking.

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      "We’ve all been there. You want to make a large batch of cookies for friends or family, but your KitchenAid stand mixer stopped working. When your KitchenAid stand mixer stops working, it inevitably leads to frustration. This is a common problem. Fortunately, there is a solution. I’ll show you a quick and easy way to fix your KitchenAid stand mixer when it stops working.

      Believe it or not, the first KitchenAid stand mixer was made way back in 1918…"

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      This is one of the few cases where I think having an LLM bot straight up plagiarize an article is valid. They’re going out of their way to waste my time, so I’ll gladly have a bot lift the two sentences of the 20 paragraph article that actually answer the question.

      If they want ad revenue they can make articles for humans, or they can eat my entire ass.

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        It’s often not up to publications but up to Google though. Finally Google is collapsing and taking all that spam with them.

        One of the main arguments against LLMs is that content creation on the web will dry up but 90% of content of the web is already inaccurate SEO garbage. Maybe accelerationists were right this time.

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    Googling something and being able to find answers to your questions that you can actually trust instead of being fed a mixture of AI generated articles giving garbage information, ads disguised as articles and pages blatantly trying to sell you something.

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      Adding before:2023 to the query helps on older stuff. For new stuff i have no idea, all i get is a torrent of SEO AI worthless junk.

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    The creativity and willingness to share.

    Anyone could make a crappy site.

    Anyone could fire up some phpBB.

    People created a lot of stuff that mainstream commercial developers weren’t willing to invest time in. Think windows power toys, mp3 players or converters, game mods, all the little things that filled the gaps in mainstream OS and other software. Add the free stuff that people made like Blender or other specialized software that did what commercial software did but for free.

    Flash games.

    Linux distros.

    Hobbies and how-tos.

    There was so much stuff. Now it’s all mostly locked down under DRM or whatever.

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    There’s a certain scrappyness that has been lost. I think back to SomethingAwful, Newgrounds, that sort of stuff where people just made things, didn’t matter if they couldn’t draw, some of the best things were stick figure animations. Even on Youtube now people are doing ad reads to camera like a 1950’s talk show host.

    I also miss the sort of folk mythologies that emerged from what I like to call the Contextless Era. The Napster/Limewire explosion pre-iTunes led to a lot of things being shared with no context except for chronically incorrect file names. Which is why at least one person who reads this sentence still thinks System Of A Down wrote a song about the Legend of Zelda.

    I kinda miss the PC first internet. Just in general. I miss instant messenger clients. MSN, AIM and Yahoo! Facebook fucked it up. As Tom Scott once said, those style of messengers had the benefit of requiring users to log in, which meant being online was a signal you weren’t busy.

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        Called it!

        No; the song - simply titled “Zelda” is from the album Rabbit Joint, by the band Rabbit Joint. Singer Joe Pleiman wrote the lyrics to the tune of the Hyrule Overture by Nintendo composer Koji Kondo.

        Back in the day, little known bands would attempt an early form of SEO, they’d put the names of more famous bands or artists in the file names of mp3s they would upload. Say you were an obscure (and for my purposes, fictional) metal band named Scorn Town, you might upload your newest track as “Blood of the Night - Scorn Town (metallica).mp3” to kind of trick Metallica fans into downloading and listening to your song.

        But you did a stupid: It’s one of those songs whose title isn’t in the lyrics, but you wrote the band’s name into the chorus because you’re trying to get people to know who you are. So people think the file name is of the pattern “Flagpole Sitta - I’m Not Sick But I’m Not Well (Harvey Danger).mp3”. Actual title - what you think the actual title is (band name).extension. So a lot of small time acts accidentally attributed their own songs to more famous groups by incorrect titles. Or their fans did it for them; any prank phone call skits were attributed to the Jerky Boys, and any white man performing stand-up comedy who was even slightly southern (especially Bill Engval) was credited as Jeff Foxworthy.

        And because this was the contextless era, no one even thinks to question this and if they do they don’t find anything because Scorn Town doesn’t and never will have a website and even if they did Alta Vista can’t find it. So it gets written into digital folk history at face value.

        Pleiman’s vocals did bear quite a resemblance to that of System of a Down’s Serj Tankian, and Chop Suey was HUGE at the time. And some unknown individual uploaded Zelda by Rabbit Joint to Napster with a file name similar to “SOAD - Legend Of Zelda.mp3.”

        Similarly, “The end of the world” aka “H’okay, so. Here’s the Earth, s’chillin…” was NOT made by Group X.

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    A lot of it boils down to the users. Personally, I miss when the internet mostly consisted of us nerds.

    Back in 1995 when I first got online, the web was very much a nerd domain. You needed a certain level of computer knowledge to get online, which really acted as a filter. It meant that most of us shared a certain level of understanding and the drive to use such a medium. We disagreed on Star Trek and Star Wars, but to the outside world, we were ALL nerds. Back then, the average person didn’t even think of going online.

    These days, even the most tech illiterate can get online. In fact, they don’t even think about it; it’s that integrated in their daily life.

    While growth also gave us nice things like large forums, web shopping, YouTube, etc… by and large I think we’d be better off if this was still a nerd domain.

    I really miss those days.

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      Yes! My ex and I used to build all kinds of computers back then. Of course they used to blow up rather quickly. It was a slog trying to figure out where I left off once I got up and running again. Shopping - I bought all kinds of stuff on the internet back then lol. Enough said.

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        The early days of web shopping sure were interesting. I was a very early adopter compared to most people.

        The very first thing I ever bought online was a flashlight back in 1999. Which was such a novelty at the time that I actually visited the two guys who ran that shop from a literal broom closet in order to collect it. I was like their third customer ever. These days they have 75 employees and around 7 million euros of revenue.

        Collecting a web order seems silly now, but at that time it basically avoided a two week wait. Back in 1998-2005, if you bought something online in the Netherlands, you usually had to transfer the money by bank. Which took a few days. After that, they would send the product, which again took a few days.

        In 2005 we got a new online payment method that let you transfer the money immediately, much like paying at a register. That made it way more convenient for everyone and you saw massive increases in spending year over year.

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      Don’t gatekeep the internet. That’s what lobbying ISPs and telecom companies are for. /s

      Update: Oh yeah, I forgot that Lemmy was filled to the brim with Linux nerds. The most-common nerd-gatekeepers, right before tabletop players. Explains the downvotes.

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    People having their own sites. I’m sick of everything happening on platforms (yes including this one). I want to visit someone’s place, not meet at the bar.

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    I miss the weird edginess of the internet. The reality is that the internet was a place that kids got warned about being full of weirdos and dangerous types. And they weren’t wrong. The thing is, that also made it interesting and full of fascinating content. And it was largely unregulated and uncensored because the people in power were too old to understand or care about it. Now with things like KOSA and the centralization of the internet around a few megaplatforms, there’s less variety and creativity. The internet has become an endless soup of banal, milquetoast content. Vaguely appealing to everyone, but not greatly appealing to anyone.

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    Stumbleupon

    I found so many cool sites with that addon back in the day. I fear a new version would be so ad infested and curated that it wouldn’t be worth it.

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      I miss that site a lot. Miss getting way too high in college after finishing homework and spending many joyful hours there

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    I just miss when you could search for things on search engines and find what you were looking for. I miss when putting operators, quotes, and parentheses actually changed the search results.

    I miss when AI wasn’t shoved into EVERYTHING. I miss when the internet was usable to be honest.

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    A click got a page.

    Now you see spinny things getting content, the page jumps around, your mouse causes pop-ups to appear or the page to jump around even more. You start reading and the sentence is suddenly teleported to somewhere else.

    But apart from that I love the new internet!

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      Every damn time i go to a fandom page, I have to wait a few seconds for the content to quit dancing around as it loads in whatever fandom garbage loads. We have height and width attributes for a reason!

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    The creativity people were willing to share. Forums, DIY guides, blogs, neat yet crappy animations on Youtube. It’s all kind of still there, but it’s hard to find with how the internet is today.

    It was full of passionate people who made things because they enjoyed it. Now, it’s either how-to sites written by bots/keyboard monkeys, or you’re fast-tracked to the #1 video. You have to really go looking for the human now.

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    When sites were designed for desktop/landscape, instead of beig lazy and designing everything for mobile and not creating different desktop and mobile versions.

    Also, social media not trying to be everything. Nowadays, every social media is racing to be the all-in-one platform for microblogging, forums, short-form video, long-form video, etc. instead of focusing on the thing they were made for and do best.

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      Tbf that first one is more a result of web devs kinda slapping an “adjust for mobile/desktop” line into the page files to save time for other tasks the middle manager is breathing down their neck about