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    I did this before cellphone and any sort of digital maps. It was hell. I memorized my city, that wasn’t the hard part. The hard part was the people who didn’t have their houses properly labeled with their address. Bonus points if they left their porch light off, as well.

    “Why is my pizza cold?”

    “Because I had to use complex mathematics to derive your house number among all of the unnumbered houses on your street.”

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      ”Because I had to use complex mathematics to derive your house number among all of the unnumbered houses on your street."

      Wouldn’t even be able to do that in the neighborhood I grew up in. They numbered the houses in the order they were built/the lots were purchased and that wasn’t often next to each other lol. So 64, 67, 88, 90 are next to each other for instance.

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        The neighborhood I grew up in had a scheme that made sense once you were told what it was, but you’d never figure it out looking around.

        There was a center point to the town where all addresses started, as you went away from that point in any direction the numbers got bigger. Numbers are 3 digits. Each block away from the center gets a new top digit, so the four blocks that touch one of the axis lines are 100, one block away is 200 etc. There’s a North, South, East and West, so there can be a 200 North Something St. and a 200 South Something St. and they will occasionally get each other’s mail.

        One side of the street gets the even tens, the other side gets the fives. So 330 West Example Ave is across the street from 335 West Example Ave.

        Many homes sat on multiple lots, and they skipped the unused lot numbers (the tens digit) and even then they would skip a number in between, so it’s not unusual to see 205 East Example ave on the corner, and 235 East Example ave is next door.

        Apartments or townhouses with multiple addresses on the same lot get a letter suffix, so you might have a 635B West Name St.

        There are other context clues, like the North-South roads are “streets” and the East-West roads are “avenues”. But still it would be difficult to grasp this system if you weren’t told about it because “There’s three houses along this block, why are the numbers 30 apart?”

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      I delivered pizza for a few years in my early years, and poorly lit addresses were the absolute worst. I was delivering in the pre-smartphone but post mapquest era, and we had a computer in the shop with a touch screen (which was crazy at the time) map on it so you could figure out where we were going. But God forbid you ended up on a one way street looking for an address that was poorly labeled or unlit and you got somebody behind you laying on their horn… At some point I bought a 1000 candle spotlight that I used at night, and that got me pulled over several times because people would call the police about “a slow driving car shining a spotlight out of its window”… Like… For fucks sake. I’m just trying to deliver some pizza.

      With that said, while working I smoked a bunch of weed, listened to a bunch of good music, and generally got tipped well so… It was a good time.

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      Nothing changed drove for Grubhub for awhile. Google maps isn’t 100% correct and the amount of customers expecting food to be delivered with their porch lights off and no numbers on their homes. It was a shit show.

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    In the before times, I was uniquely blessed with the ability to decipher these paper maps. I was seen as a god among men.

    Alas, with the advent of GPS and navigation I am but a mere relic of days gone by, regaling my days of glory to whomever should have the ears to listen.

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      I used to be amazed by the idea that there were people that couldn’t do this. A good map/atlas has an index of street names and what pages grid cells they’re on, and you can trace any familiar road trip with your finger (or a highlighter if you must).

      Now I know that some people have a lot working against them. Some can’t visualize things in their head, have no clue which way North is, or imagine what their current location resembles on a 2D map. There’s also a kind of “navigation sense” that some people have and/or learn where your perception of space is in constant comparison to near and distant landmarks, even when indoors. People that can do these things are not afraid of liminal spaces, can easy find hidden rooms in structures, know exactly how big their car is, can improvise new routes between distant locations with ease, and being lost is a temporary problem at worst.

      Edit: I had an ex that had very poor spacial perception, so that’s a thing too. There was an argument over whether or not a moving box would fit through a doorway when carried. Critical thinking aside, a complaint was made when seeing the box sitting alone, packed, in the middle of an otherwise empty room. From outside the room, this person was unable to accurately compare the box’s size in relationship to the doorway’s dimensions, and insisted it was too big to leave the space. It was as if their mind was unable to pull together enough context to get an accurate frame of reference. I think this spacial perception ability applies to navigation as well, and may explain why some people struggle with it.

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        I feel sad. When I was younger I would always try and figure out North by the position of the sun, time of day and time of year, whenever I was in a new place. Its gotten so useless to do so I have forgotten how.

        Last time I used these skills was in Norway. figured out North while walking around Tromso by looking at the Satellite Dishes.

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          Its gotten so useless to do so I have forgotten how.

          I guess I lucked out with keeping this habit. I know of two tricks you can try to keep it straight. Once you memorize that the sun moves from East to West:

          • On a compass, West and East spell “WE” with North above that.
          • Imagine an old fashioned watch or clock face, where North is at 12 o’clock (N = Noon) and East is at 3 o’clock (3 kinda looks like E).

          figured out North while walking around Tromso by looking at the Satellite Dishes.

          Nice! Know your environment. For those reading along, when in the Northern Hemisphere:

          • Satellites hang out nearer the equator so dishes point South(ish).
          • Solar panels are another one and also face in a generally Southward direction to maximize solar exposure year-round.
          • An older trick is to look for moss on rocks and trees. These do not like direct sunlight and prefer to grow in the shade of the North side of things.

          The opposite is true for these three when in the Southern Hemisphere. And all this is less useful, the closer to the equator you go.

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      I find it interesting that many people are apparently no longer able to grok maps at all. Even on their phones.

      If there isn’t a blue dot, they have no idea where they are. Nor how to go anywhere that isn’t linked by a blue line.

      It’s a lost art indeed.

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        It doesn’t help that everyone perpetually keeps their navigation apps oriented as “forward up”, thus any sense of directionality is forever lost. They’ll use my navigator with it set “north up” and get very confused at intersections. How is this such a difficult skill?

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        If there isn’t a blue dot, they have no idea where they are.

        That’s the neat part. Even with the app, they still don’t. Only now they don’t have to know.

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      I guess I’ll take comfort knowing it’s still a useful skill for some video games… but even those are becoming increasingly simplified

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      I feel ya. Navigation by paper maps was my specialty. Now I’m a soldier without a war, relegated to shit posting on the Internet.

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    And now they use door dash and it takes two hours to arrive cold and spit on.

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        I rotate delivery apps so they constantly send me coupons. The coupon doesn’t actually save any money over the restaurant cost but basically cancels out the delivery fee.

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      But the companies running these softwares now make a huge profit, while the restaurants and delivery drivers earn less. So it’s better this way for their billionaire investors

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        I still don’t understand how paying a third party the delivery fee plus their management costs and profit margin is cheaper than hiring a teenager. It sucks though :/

        Like you said, worse every person involved except for the door dash executives

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          Because a lot of places probably don’t do enough delivery volume to justify staffing a driver every night, and the apps themselves are pretty powerful marketing tools.

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    The 30 minutes or it’s free deal really became dangerous and was discontinued. Still, learning the city map by heart and combing through unlabeled houses was impressive.

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    We had a map of our delivery area on the wall. Maps like this have an index of street names on one side, with XY coordinates to find them on the map. Before leaving with the pizza, you look at the map (if you weren’t familiar with the area) and get an idea how to get there. The longer you work there, the less you need to look at the map.

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    London and Tokyo taxi drivers are the apex… the map apex… the mapex (pronounced MAY-pex)?

    “Take me to that hotel that’s in front of a pub, I think it’s called The Fox & Hounds… I think it’s between a park and a Tube station”, and the crazy bastard could figure out exactly where you meant, even though there are multiple pubs named The Fox & Hounds in London.

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    The thing to keep in mind here is that each such pizzeria had a specific territory it staked out. There was an effective radius from every location, and the drivers were often very experienced with that chunk of town. I also recall wall-mounted maps near the phone so they could easily tell the customer to call a closer Domino’s or Pizza Hut over if they were out of range. So after a while, you just learn the region, memorize the street names, and off you go. Finding a house number was the only real risk.

    Advertising was also typically done door-to-door with flyers and fridge magnets, along with phone numbers for YOUR local franchise. As a franchise owner you’d have your family or hire some kids to canvas every so often. I suppose that helped with any confusion, but there was nothing keeping you from getting a hold of the wrong number from the phone book or a friend.

    With GPS navigation everywhere, I’m betting that drivers can range further than ever before. The calculus is probably more like “google says you’re 40 minutes out right now, so no”, than “you’re not one of our customers.”

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      I was one of those summer “crew” kids! It was fun, easy work at the time. Always wanted to move up to phones, but there weren’t openings. (bear in mind, it was my first year of HS, my goals were low)

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        Because the texture allows it to perfectly absorb and mingle with all the detritus between the couch cushions for additional layers of flavor.

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        Definitely an extremely drunk group of college girls who seemed to be doing some hazing ritual which involved molesting the pizza boy. I’m not 100% sure exactly what was going on, but the person who answered the door had her tits out and woman behind her was on all fours spreading her cheeks (just wearing underwear), slurring something about giving her the tip. I was solicited to pick which one I preferred.

        It didn’t actually go anywhere. Once I cast my vote their attention moved on to something else and they offered me a shot and a beer (which I took, because college, poor decisions, etc) and they said I could hang out but it was all a bit too sloppy drunk for my taste so I just left mildly confused and slightly horny.

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    Worked pharmacy delivery for years starting in high school, just before smartphones, and I still don’t use GPS. Basically just map to nearest main intersection and remember their street name and the one before it.

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      Imagine missing your turn in the route you memorized and having to pull over for 10 minutes to try to find the way back- or I assume that’s what happened, when I was a kid my mom just went to the library to print Google maps directions. And they were almost always wrong

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      “The Deliverator belongs to an elite order, a hallowed sub-category. He’s got esprit up to here…”