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    fastest cars

    You can buy a mid level sedan with a turbo today that will blow the doors off of most cars from that era. I mean we have cars today with 1500+ horsepower with zero modifications.

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      I don’t disagree with your first part but 1,500 stock HP?? Even Tesla, known for making up numbers, says that the S Plaid makes 1,020hp.

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          Eh, I’m not trying to be pedantic but it seems a bit disingenuous to include boutique hypercars in this kind of conversation. Almost all those above 1,200hp were produced in extremely limited production runs. Sure, we might have cars making 1,500hp or more, but it isn’t like that’s in any way common or the technology needed to make them is attainable to many people. Shit, I think a more effective comparison to get your point across is the fact that a base level Civic is making more power than a '67 Nova SS.

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            Yeah from the list the absolutely nuts, one-off, dragracing versions of cars from the 50s/60s made ~400hp. Which could be outdone by an option on the Camero last year. And if you wanted more it’s not difficult, just more money.

            And raw HP numbers don’t take into account how much better modern cars drive or how much safer they are. I daily a car from the 80s and love it. But lack of ABS or traction control or airbags or a collapsible steering column does come to mind every once in awhile. Cars from the 50s/60s will have notably worse handling/cornering/etc.

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            I think a more effective comparison to get your point across is the fact that a base level Civic is making more power than a '67 Nova SS.

            You’re literally just rewording the first sentence of my original comment dawg.

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    True Boomer Monolithicism on display.

    WE had the best music

    WE had drive-ins

    WE had Happy Days

    Anyone who didn’t like them wasn’t one of US

    But yeah, it was the damn hivemind commies who were the problem

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    …and ignorant, and stupid, and moronic, and selfish, and rude, and entitled, and…

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    If you were born in the 50’s you had rock and roll, acid rock, heavy metal, disco, synthwave, house, grunge, and rap.

    Not a bad claim to the best music. They only missed classical, jazz and big band. Weird Al was born in the 50’s. If you think Weird Al doesn’t have the best music then I say to you, “Good day, sir!”

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    Meanwhile in todays day have consumer cars that burn as much fuel as a semi, large 4x4 child pedestrian killers driven by soccer moms, Proud boys aren’t that old and they are pretty racist and active, School shootings, ‘anxious’ gun nuts shooting little girls on their lawns and clowns running countries into a 3rd world state during pandemics and giving bailouts to capitalist billionaires who are of a millennial age which are the entire cause of the housing crisis while there should be more than enough living space. There shouldn’t even be homeless right now.

    Complain all you want about boomers but all the newer generations came in hot on the heels to make it far worse than any boomer did. They poured gallons of gasoline on that fire.

    Fuck off with this ‘Z VS Boomer’ crap especially if you’re sitting here calling their music the best and listening to it.

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      Government is controlled by boomers. Blame should be placed on those who refuse to close loopholes and end bad laws, not those who abuse said loopholes.

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        Manipulators should absolutely hold the blame of their own actions. if you don’t like what boomers did, you can’t copy them and pretend you’re 100% innocent. That’s becoming the monster you hate and being manipulative to shift the blame off yourself. You are your own job. And if you have the chance to do better but still don’t, then you are pushing shitty double standards. That’s not reasonable. That’s being a bad actor. if you know better then do better. If you have the time to criticize, you have the time to help.

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          Public corporations are legally required to do what’s best for shareholders, not society. They are not bound by the values system you’ve posted and have no cognitive dissonance about becoming a monster. Government is the check to that - they set the boundaries under which corporations are allowed to operate. However the government no longer serves its constituents.

          I will also add that not all boomers are bad, and that the real enemy employs divide and conquer to sow division against anything that isn’t them. So they are happy to start flame wars about Z vs Boomer, Black vs White, male vs female - anything that is not working class vs capitalist

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    Pigeonholing / steoreotyping people according to an aspect over which they have zero control? Yeah that does sound vaguely unfriendly - just a bit!

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      Even better. Doing that to accuse people of pigeonholing/stereotyping people according to an aspect they have zero control.

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        Upvoting. Or, accusing people of accusing people of pigeonholing/stereotyping people according to an aspect they have zero control!

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        Just wait’ll the fascists take control in the next election, and it may become so here! (this statement works regardless of country or year or even party affiliation, unfortunately, but people are people)

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              Not here they ain’t. Parliamentary democracy with proportional representation, baby. It’s the bees knees!

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                Wow, a representative democracy - I have heard those words before but I struggle to even so much as begin to understand what it might be like in such a place. For instance, I presume you have socialized healthcare? (It’s a good bet b/c the only 2 first-world countries that do not are the USA and Saudia Arabia iirc:-P)

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                  Switzerland and Japan both do not have socialized health care, off the top of my head. They have much more tightly regulated insurance and prices, but their healthcare isn’t covered by taxes.

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      But hey, at least they had the choice in becoming racist.

      (not all of them are, I know)

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        (Wow a lot of downvoters here but fwiw I at least upvoted you.)

        You bring up a FASCINATING tangent: is there a minimum level of agency required for someone to be “wrong”? Like if ChatGPT were to say something that represent racist trolling language, is it racist, or is it merely incorrectly trained? (and if it is a racist troll, then why is it not banned entirely from places like Reddit, Facebook, Tumblr, Threads, X, and the Fediverse? humans that do precisely that have that happen to them - why is it treated with “kid gloves”?)

        Moreover, if someone steps up to become a leader, do we hold them to a higher standard? e.g. even though Trump can barely pass a test to determine if he is mentally incapable, do we hold his actions (such as assassination, invasion of another country like Russia is doing, etc.) against him? Do these standards vary according to the level of leadership, e.g. what if someone is not running to be a President, but they do vote to remove access to medical care for pregnant mothers - does the person bear any responsibility whatsoever for their actions in that case, if they “merely voted”, the way that their cough cough evangelical christian cough pastors told them to?

        Another source of bias is a personal relationship - is someone wrong, or conversely not wrong, even if they are your mother or father?

        I think the Western world is under attack, and we have some difficult decisions ahead of us. People people are literally dying, and we are in this trolly staring at the lever. Whatever the attacker does is on them, but whatever we do in response is on us. imho. But if I say that, then isn’t it likewise on them, those people who vote in the other way than I think is correct?

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          Thanks. The only reason I wrote it because I believe people CAN stop being racist. I grew in a small town (and family) where almost nobody was nazi level racist, but the kind that still grabs their bag when a gypsy/roma person gets on the bus. No N words, no swastikas but the kind of “passive” racism where you still have unrealistic prejudices and stereotypes.

          It took me a few years, meeting more people, getting some education (and a few amazing girlfriends) to realise that I’ve been fed some unfiltered, biased information on ethnical minorities, people of colour and the LGBT community. But the same way as I could get more information and stop being racist, I think the majority of those people (if not everybody) can, as well.

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            Good points! Fwiw, though I’ve never met a roma person, I thought that one was more “cultural” than “ethnic”, and also that it was a part of the culture (literally) to steal. That said, one should keep a solid eye on their belongings regardless of who else is around, so the “clutch” seems entirely unnecessary. Being aware is just good advice, though not making an obvious clutch is an “anti-racist” pattern that considers the feelings of the person that just stepped onto the bus, and I would strongly advocate for doing both actually.

            One thing to add to your story though: you were willing to learn - but not everybody is. And if your racist parents, just to give an example, were to vote against women’s healthcare, then their choices will lead to literal deaths, possibly even of your very girlfriend, like if a period went wrong one day but then doctors did not know what they were allowed vs. not allowed to do and she died as a result. At least, this is happening in America. This is not theoretical - this is ACTUALLY happening.

            Russia may be feeding into the existing prejudices in the Western World - by making memes, making TV shows (like Tucker Carlson’s, before he got booted out as a result of going too far), bribing politicians; and overall causing or at least inflaming or taking advantage of things like Brexit - but the people who make themselves into sheep and enact those wills… they bear some of the responsibility as well. As in, if they ever were fortunate to have your own experiences, then they would look back at how they voted decades ago and feel guilt. Assuming that they were still alive - which many of the anti-vaxxers are already not anymore. And they did not go down quietly: they took MANY others along with them too. They also prevented us from even so much as counting precisely how many there were, but from the excess death stats it was A LOT - in the USA we lost more people to covid than all the wars we’ve ever had combined (with the one exception of the immensely bloody civil war on our own soil, and even that number we’ve probably blown past by now?).