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    Oprah is a bullshit artist. She has always been a bullshit artist and she got rich peddling bullshit. Her efficiency promoting pseudoscience throughout her career makes her a blight on society, forever deserving scorn for the people she helped to hurt. We are collectively dumber because of her efforts, and she gets to live her life lavished by luxury and adulation as a result.

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      She is responsible for both Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. She could have literally been responsible for handing the senate over to the Republicans.

      Fuck Oprah.

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        During the pandemic, Dr. Oz’s private cardiac clinic in the US was handing out vaccine exemption notes to anyone who paid the fee. There was no physical examination, just a questionnaire, and you didn’t need to be one of his actual patients. No referral from your family doctor was necessary either and no need to provide your medical records. It was a complete and utter scam. How do I know? Because I literally called his clinic to follow up on a bullshit exemption claim and they told me their process.

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        What an incredibly dumb statement to make in the comment section of an article about her literally leaving the board of a major company. “Just an entertainer” holy shit.

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      Thanks for succinctly and precisely explaining why I really dislike her.

      I’ve tried to explain why to my wife, but I feel like I’ve always missed the mark and she has implied it’s probably a mixture of misogyny and/or racism. Which still may be true I don’t really know. However, next time it comes up, I’ll point out that I dislike her for the same reason I dislike rogan.

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        Unfortunately, sexism and racism is so rampant from men (conservatism is ingrained into many men as a form of masculinity) that well-intentioned men who criticize toxic and exploitative capitalist women (esp women of color) are immediately lumped into that group of degenerate men. The reality of it is, Oprah is a toxic influence on women and gets off on creating FOMO among her impressionable fanbase. She created Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil, the former of which has had disastrous effects on women’s health esp nutrition because he’s a quack and pretends to be an expert on all things medical, and the latter of which oversimplifies most psych concepts to the point where laypeople think they’re qualified psychologists now.

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        You really didn’t need to admit that you probably don’t like her because she’s a black woman. If you don’t say this to your wife when adding the joe rogan bit, then you’re being dishonest.

        Edit: Look. OP said that. It’s right there in the comment. I’m not making it up. Oprah sucks? Sure. She’s like Joe Rogan? Okay. My wife said my comments are sexist and racist, and it may be true… dude. That’s all I pointed out. Sorry, but that’s not okay. I’m fine with the downvotes, though I’ll make sure to better portray my point next time.

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          You really didn’t need to admit that you probably don’t like her because she’s a black woman.

          What do you mean? I don’t believe this to be the case, I believe I don’t like her for the same reason I don’t like rogan, and the last I checked he isn’t a black woman. Recognizing that I may have internalized biases that fall in a blind spot of mine is not an admission of anything nor is it something anyone should be shitting on.

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            But you did say “my wife thinks my comments have a mix of racism and misogyny, which is still maybe true.” How does that paint a good picture in any way?

            But I stand corrected and I admit I had a knee-jerk reaction.

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              How does that paint a good picture in any way?

              I wasn’t trying to paint a good picture, I was being honest.

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                Then be honest with yourself for once.

                You say:

                I don’t believe this to be the case,

                How do you reconcile that with “maybe I’m being racist and misogynistic”?

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                  I am being honest with myself: I may have internalized biases that I’m not consciously aware of. There’s nothing to reconcile here as these two statements are not mutually exclusive or even contradictory in any way.

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          One of the best ways to come to the conclusion that you need to better yourself in some areas is to be open to the idea you might have a bias.

          But acknowledging you might have a bias does not mean it’s there and you’re OK with it

          And not liking someone who is part of a marginalized group does not always mean a bias either.

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          I am so looking forward to a Lemmy user who is black and a woman to tell you that Oprah sucks. Whoever you are, please do us that favor. And if there aren’t any black women on Lemmy… well, there should be anyway.

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            Which is fine. I probably gave it more emphasis on the side point that the main point. But OP did admit that his wife pointed out that his comments have a misogyny and racist tone, and OP said that maybe that’s true. That’s it.

            “Oprah sucks because she’s like Joe Rogan”

            Ok.

            “And if someone thinks it’s racist and sexist, it maaaaaay be true.”

            Not ok.

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              Two things.

              wife pointed out that his comments have a misogyny and racist tone

              First you’re putting words in my mouth. She never said anything about my tone making her believe that, but that my dislike might be misogynistic and/or racist. I believe this is because I wasn’t explaining my position well, so without a good reason, it opened the door for that possibility.

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              “And if someone thinks it’s racist and sexist, it maaaaaay be true.”

              Not ok.

              It’s a good thing that I’m open to the possibility that I’m biased. This is not something to shit on. I don’t get why this is such a bad thing. Bring open to being wrong is how you grow.

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                Understood, and you clarified in another comment.

                Your original comment was not clear enough, at least not to me, but now that I have the full context, I see that you’re not some racist/sexist asshole. But of course, it was wrong of me to accuse you of that in the first place without asking you to clarify. I’ll do that from now on.

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    As someone who is loosing weight it’s basically calories in and calories out without eating over your daily calory budget

    loseit is a good app and will calculate your calory budget for you and can track the foods you eat and add them up

    I feel sorry for you americans though that don’t have the per 100g on your nutritional labels though because serving sizes can be deceptive

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      serving sizes can be deceptive

      The funniest example I’ve seen of this recently is the whipped butter that my parents buy. It has a blurb on the front that says “50% less fat than regular butter per serving”, which is true - because even though the serving sizes are the same (1 tablespoon) the whipped butter is fucking half air.

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        See also the “light” version of bottled apple juice, on inspection of the ingredients it’s because they just fucking add water to it and still charge the same price.

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      It’s just not that easy for some folks. Especially people who have developed eating disorders.

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        I know this might not sound positive but people with eating disorders should try to speak to a therapist about it because eating disorders can end up being horrible for your health

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          Although it is true what you say and I do agree, I also read between your lines that maybe you don’t know how difficult and (life)long that process is.

          An eating disorder is a disease/issue that honestly isn’t solvable, you carry that weak point for the rest of your life and will have to battle it. Which with eating is extra difficult, since you have to eat. You can’t stay sober from food.

          (But maybe I misunderstood your words (being written text without further context). )

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            This is why I’m not against drugs like Ozempic for those who need it.

            I used a new medication to make me not want opiates. Used it for about two years until I had enough healthy habits in place to actually not want opiates. Been clean for 6 years and off the medication for over a year without issue.

            Never would have gotten clean without it so it makes sense to me how people end up obese.

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        It’s not about being easy, it’s about being able to measure. I’ve been completely unable to regulate my food intake for a long time until I took it real seriously (therapeutic fasting. It’s a thing, it’s very extreme, if you can avoid it do it) and kind of reset my eating habits. Now that I’m slowly increasing my caloric intake to what someone on the weight I aim to be should consume (2m calories a day, healthy for someone with 90kg), having the pero 100g indication is extremely helpful for me since I can estimate how much stuff is taxing my daily budget, and I’m discovering some incredible cheat foods (stuff I really enjoy eating that fills me and has low calories).

        What I mean to say is that having the per 100g information is very valuable for anyone that cares to control their caloric intake. Sure, you don’t have it in restaurants and stuff but with enough experience you tend to learn to estimate dishes so you can compensate beforehand or afterwards to not exceed your budget.

        Its all about caloric intake, some people have it real hard to keep it under control due to eating disorders or family customs, but it really is just that.

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      I don’t mean this directed at you since you seem to be very helpful. This is more directed at the zero empathy crowd who likes to repeat this equation.

      I always hear “calories in - calories out = deficit”. But it overlooks that “calories out” is a big mystery box. You can kind of estimate it sometimes. But it’s different for every person, and different every day. And it’s over estimated for people who work out, leading to a lot of frustration.

      I like that you actually have follow ups with things that can help. It’s important to have those conversations instead of just pretending it’s simple.

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      I’ve been reading so much about how simple it is to lose weight, it’s all about caloric deficit. I’ve also been in Hashimoto’s and hypothyroidism communities long enough to know that’s not always true. It’s probably true for healthy individuals, but with Hashi’s and hypothyroidism, metabolism doesn’t work as well, so you can be in caloric deficit and work out, yet still unable to shed the extra weight.

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        Strictly speaking that’s not really possible. Like, physically. The body’s ATP production has to come from somewhere, and that’s either stuff you ingest or stuff already in your body. Low metabolism just means even fewer calories going in for a deficit.

        Water retention is also “weight gain” but only sort of. It’s certainly a medical issue but most people specifically mean body fat when talking about weight.

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    In a world of constant unjustified hyperbole, Oprah is genuinely the nexus of SOOO much evil through Oz, Phil, John of God, etc.

    What a fucking suck on humanity.

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    Am I missing something? When WW itself has added medications to its offerings, why would this result in Oprah leaving the board? Or are those two things unrelated?

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      For a long time, Weight Watchers has said that if you just follow their points system, the weight will melt off and you won’t need supplements or anything else. When most people think of Weight Watchers, they’re probably not thinking about the weight loss drugs they now support; they’re thinking of the years of points gimmick that make you feel like you can’t lose weight unless you pay $10+/month to see if you can eat that food or not (rather than teaching anyone about calorie intake vs. output).

      Weight Watchers relies on a subscription based model to “save” people from their fatness, and Oprah was the biggest WW pusher. She had tons of money and resources, was even on the board of WW, and still needed medications to manage her weight. I don’t give a fuck, but people who bought into her ads and promos probably feel a little pissed off.

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      BREAKING NEWS

      In my 25 year career, this is possibly the worst thing I will report…

      Oprah still exists.

      We’ll be back when more information comes out about this horrible situation.

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    Why is this surprising or even controversial? Weight Watchers bought Sequence whose whole purpose was to fast track access to Wegovy. Seems a little ridiculous to point towards that as the reason for the stock falling. Most likely it was simply because she left the board.

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      1954: Oprah Winfrey is born in Kosciusko, MS, weighing 6 pounds, 11 ounces. Throughout her infancy, she steadily gains weight, a habit that persists throughout her life.

      How brave 😔

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      […]a poem dedicated to Winfrey, “Water Into Air.”

      “As I lose, I gain,” Angelou said. “I wing home to a place long forgotten. I swell as I recede, taking in all that has come before me. I molt. I shed. I diminish. But I feel no loss for I am free. My song slips its long confinement and joins the celestial roar. I was made of water, now I am air. I lose as I gain, but again I lose. I lose. I lose.”

      And this is why I love the onion.

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    She’s a terrible spokesperson for WW anyway due to her trademark weight fluctuations over a period of 3-4 decades. Oprah gets fat, she “goes on WW”, writes a book about her experience which is basically a glorified WW commercial. Rinse and repeat. Capitalist scum.

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    How much stock did she dump before this announcement? If Martha Stewart was convicted, how much more inside info is this? The SEC should be investigating the fraud that is Oprah.

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    A decade ago I lost weight on weight watchers. All it took was self control. The less calories I ate, the less I weighed. I’m still within 5 pounds of that weight.

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      My mom has had fantastic success with weight watchers. As has my wife, but with her we’re talking 5 to 10 lbs she has wanted to lose. But it still has been a great system for her which has benefitted me too.

      Oprah being a fraud that pushes pseudoscience to benefit herself shouldn’t detract from this.