BRB, on my way to withdraw all funding for an UN agency with 30.000 employees because 12 of them have been denounced by Israel.
Well, she’s changed a lot after her 16th birthday:
The nose doesn’t look extremely weird anymore.
Wow, such a massive change.
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The weapons embargo in Alderaan prevented those people from handing over the Jedi. The Empire itself maintains that embargo! What were the people of Alderaan to do?
The Empire has a right to defend itself
I hear at least one of the Jedi was a Sith, good thing they were defunded. Now if we could only defund all the conspiracy theorists about the emperor being a Sith as well.
This is some brilliantly spicy stuff, OP. Well done, I love it!
“If you hate the death star so much, why don’t you go live on Alderaan?”
While the real life situation this is based off is quite sad and upsetting…
This is hilarious beyond belief.
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Real shitpost!
that sweet copium around here, even on lemmy, that’s so sweet
Oh good I was really thinking my shit posting community needed more agenda posts
Here are 10 Myths of Israel (archived) by Ilan Pappe
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Palestine was an empty land
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The Jews were a people without a land
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Zionism is Judaism
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Zionism is not colonialism
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The Palestinians voluntarily left their homeland in 1948
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The June 1967 War was a war of “no choice”.
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Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East
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The Oslo Mythologies
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The Gaza Mythologies
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The Two-State Solution is the only way forward
This article, Examining the 10 Myths of Israel is a shorter version of the main points
The book is too detailed to summarize each chapter on a comment, but it’s not too difficult to find independent sources to verify each of them
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Both Israel and Hamas have blood on their hands. I know we all like the whole Good vs. Bad but in an eye for eye situation, they are both wrong. People, on both sides, suffer. If the politicians would fight on the front, they would be less eager to create these situations.
Edit: I am not defending the Israeli Actions nor the Hamas actions. It is fucked up situation. Israel in the first place, shouldn’t have been created. However it is, and they should make the best of it. WITHOUT COMMITTING GENOCIDE. For people who believe in a good God, they sure are willing to kill.
All I am saying is that the ones that are not fighting, are suffering. Rockets land in Gaza, Rockets land in Israel. People, yes on both sides, are dying.
I am against the actions of Hamas, I am very against the actions of Israel.
I’m sorry, but whose currently suffering on the Israeli side? Because Gaza is literally starving. And the Aid trucks are idling at the border with food that the IDF refuses to let through.
Possibly the families of some of the people killed by Hamas. I bet they’re suffering.
Yeah I bet their friends are doing things like bringing them food to help and their jobs are giving them extra time off or something.
Yes, that is generally part of grieving.
Both of which are things the families of 27,000 Gazans cannot do right now. They have no jobs, no food, and there’s a good chance their friends are dead too.
The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.
Edit: oh and, Israel isn’t the only country that borders Gaza.
Nope. No you don’t get to go down that road. We dealt with that uncertainty in Iraq without causing a massive famine or using 2,000 pound bombs. There are no excuses for genocide, and certainly not victim blaming.
It sounds like you’re saying if Jihadists use ambulances and children then there’s no defense. Just lay down and die.
Sounds like you’re trying to lump every person in Gaza in with Hamas. Professional soldiers have procedures for those situations. Ones Israel isn’t using.
I’m not.
I’m very clearly saying that when you’re fighting a group who straps bombs to kids, you have to consider that even those appearing to be regular civilians might be a threat.
Oh but you are. Because we’ve done this. We know how to deal with those problems without committing a genocide. The only reason to answer charges of genocide with , “but the kids might have weapons!” Is to blame the victims.
The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.
That’s a really weird way to say, “I’ll kill any Palestinian that moves, even the cattle, because I can’t even bother viewing them as human beings”.
Would it be acceptable if someone shot an Israeli ambulance, saying, “well, you never know these days, these ambulances are full of IDF ready to attack!”?
Nope, and neither should the opposite.
That’s like blaming Jews during world war 2 for putting up resistance against their fascist rulers. It is such a mischaracterization of the situation that it is damaging to the Palestinian people.
Yeah an eye for an eye if you’re a barbarian. 30 eyes for each 1 is… something else.
And it’s not like the fascist Israeli settlers didn’t start their share of murder before Okt.7: Israel Escalates Genocidal Violence Against Palestinians In The West Bank - YouTube TMR Jul.8th 2023
How do I stop seeing propaganda on lemmy? It’s making me sick of lemmy as a whole
Lmfao imagine siding with a genocide
Indifference is unacceptable, you must care about the thing!
Sod off.
Indifference about genocide is not just unacceptable, it’s evil, you piece of shit.
You are simultaneously denying the Uyghur genocide on another thread, you fucking nasty little hypocrite.
Palestinians are being murdered and ethnically cleansed in the tens of thousands. Thousands are dying weekly and this is being documented. We are seeing the people dying. We saw with our eyes Israel destroy all requisites for life in the Gaza and prevent all food and water from entering.
On the other hand we have seen quite literally nothing supporting the claim that China is committing Uygher genocide. Literally nothing. Uygher people continue to live normally in Xinjiang. They continue to practice their allegedly repressed culture. They continue to communally practice their allegedly repressed religion. Uygher genocide only exists in the propaganda of the United States state department and the minds of those it influences and those it employs.
We haven’t seen “literally nothing”. That is a flat lie. There is a ton of evidence, presented by organisations who you choose to call liars because it allows you to deny the truth. There are non US affiliated organisations calling the Party out, too. A true humanist would not dismiss the evidence of the Xinjiang genocide. Both the Palestinians and the Uyghurs are facing genocide, and you’re petty enough to be tribal about it. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you monstrous cunt.
We have in fact seen absolutely no evidence that China is committing genocide in Xinjiang. None.
Oh look, a Lemmy.ml user acting like a prick. How unprecedented.
Nobody owes you their attention.
I hate Israel. I hate Palestine. I hate the discourse. I hate fucking EVERYTHING.
Being made to think about war every day for years on end is destroying my mental health. I can’t use a computer, watch TV, or go outside without it shoved down my throat. I can’t even go to sleep without having nightmares about it. I want off this fucking ride. I hate being alive so fucking much.
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Holy shit. The Onion hits again.
This is the most goated comment I’ve ever read in lemmy. Fucking based.
Dude, most of us are on the other side of the world, living in countries that can do little more than send a sternly worded letter to Israel.
Being constantly reminded of that shitshow doesn’t help.
I wish someone would kick down my door and shoot me
Well, you could always try the new trend of extreme tourism in Gaza
Well then, log off your main acc and create one locked just to the good feelings parts of lemmy
You do have the option of taking a digital break. You must remember thst everyone has a limit, and once you push them hard enough they tend to push back
This is the Memes community.
Shieeeeeeeet
Well I guess there really isn’t an escape
That must be nice, not having your life put in danger so you can feel depressed about hearing other people’s life being put in danger. Hope it lasts for you, but predictions for this century say war is going to become pretty rampant globally, so I’d recommend you find a way of coping with it better.
Not like you give a shit at all but hate crimes against my kind have skyrocketed in the past few months and I was assaulted by a stranger in public about two weeks ago so I don’t appreciate the implication that this doesn’t affect me personally
Few months! What a luxury.
Well, my people have been oppressed for over 2000 years, but I’m not counting that since I haven’t been alive for most of it.
There’s a video going around that pretty much has a lot to say about what biblical scholars have found out about that, you should watch it. But the world as it is has everyone essentially belonging to “people” who would be oppressed if they chose to move someplace else in the world, they just don’t build their entire identity around it. I mean, look at the Canaanites, they even have religions that completely sanctify their genocide in their scriptures.
Not what you were complaining about or even identifying with. About the only common theme is a desperate love for making yourself out to be the victim after receiving criticism.
The only one trying to live in a bubble of ignorance is yourself, my comment was leading up to the exact opposite, that if it does not affect you personally, it will, so stop acting and ignoring all the people it is affecting personally because of “me, me, me” and how and when it less severely affects you, and face it.
Getting assaulted by a stranger is bad, huh. Now apply f-ing empathy, get some off of ebay if you must. Just don’t try to get me to empathize with playing the part of an ignorant fool.
It’s not Palestinians’ fault for being occupied and mass murdered. How are you so shameless centering and victimizing yourself for being forced to hear about people suffering genocide? This shit is unbelievable.
The only escape from something you cannot escape is to embrace it. The thing that degrades mental health is being unwillingly exposed. If the thing cannot be avoided, the only other move is to willingly expose yourself to it.
I’m gonna willingly expose myself to a bullet if I can’t get some rest without nightmares soon
So these nightmares are coming to you without your consent. That’s why your mental health is declining. To go the other direction, you face those nightmares willingly.
One way to do this would be to write down one of your nightmares. Nobody forces you through that writing other than yourself. It happens at your pace, at your initiative.
That willing approach is the path out of your sickness.
Please try this before you try shooting yourself.
Palestine supporters are fairly unique in the fact that not caring or not having a position is unacceptable to them. You must care, you must share their viewpoint, nothing else is possible.
You didn’t see the same reaction to, for example, Ukraine being invaded. Indifference was acceptable.
You didn’t see the same reaction to, for example, Ukraine being invaded. Indifference was acceptable.
In the example of Ukraine, countries have taken countless measures to pressure Russia. In this case, counties are complicit in the genocide. There’s a difference. People don’t protest when politicians do at least the bare minimum.
Might have something to do with the fact that Russia was unprovoked. Which is very different than this conflict.
How?
I assume they were alluding to the kidnapping, raping, beheading, etc perpetrated by the terrorist organization Hamas, done as a tactical move to draw a disproportionate response from the IDF in order to win the propaganda war.
I don’t think this is unique at all, it’s the core of all politics both left, right, authoritarian, liberal, etc. No matter what you believe, even if it’s nothing, there are always twice as many people against you than with you. It’s enough to make someone withdraw entirely.
It’s making all of us sick. I wish I could ignore all this too. I actually tried to, but then my government decided to step in on the world state and loudly pronounce “there is no genocide!”. And then cut humanitarian funding after the international court of justice anonymously found “credibly risk of genocide”. Which makes my country now complicit if this genocide is allowed to continue. Which makes me deeply ashamed and angry.
Have you considered you could just be wrong?
I’m basing this on the facts as presented by Israel themselves and judged practically anonymously by 15 judges of the highest court of the world. Sure, but have YOU considered you could be wrong?
If you’re wrong you’re aiding a genocide. If I’m wrong I’m just another “anti-semite”.
Block everyone you disagree with
It’s not about who I disagree with, I can’t take the animosity anymore. I’m tired of thinking about war every day.
Yup, it’s a drag. We need to do something about it though, it’s like a rash. It doesn’t go away until you see the doctor, or in this case vote in someone willing to tell other countries they can’t do this shit with our weapons.
It’s destroying my mental health and I can’t cope with it. Not just the war but the constant anger. Everyone is angry about everything all the time. I hate it here. Not only that, I hate my own life too. My life is in shambles and it will take tremendous effort to repair, just so I can stay on this dying planet…
Seriously, what’s the fucking point? I don’t eat anymore cause of the stress, I don’t sleep anymore cause of the nightmares. I wish aliens would come and euthanize our entire fucking planet. I can’t take it anymore
Doesn’t have to be the whole planet, just the top 400 richest people would do wonders though. Most of us are just trying to get by, put the blame on the one misusing “human resources”.
That I understand. Maybe you could try a browser extension to block text or news based on keywords? One parental control extension helped me filled out news from rich people that piss me off
Maybe. But doesn’t help that I can’t go to store to buy food without seeing 10 different types of propaganda and vitriol… I can’t take it dude. I want to go to sleep and never wake up
:( sorry.
You can’t filter IRL yet but what about only subscribing to wholesome communities?
I think that’ll eliminate at least 95% of the problem here.
Also don’t forget we live in a simulation / you’re the only person who exists, so you can smile best you can at the war news and ignore it best you can.
Sorry to hear you are going through this.
Leave Lemmy? Use a front end with filtering/blocking? Change communities? Plenty of options if you just take a hreath and think instead of whining.
Go back to Reddit
Piss off.
