US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.
Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.
Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.
“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.
Obviously that guy is dumb enough to do this, he bought a cyber truck…
As someone who gets both car sick and VR sick, this seems like my worst nightmare.
I wouldn’t last more than 15 seconds before projectile vomiting.
This seems like something you could take advantage of.
Those days when clearly something wants to come out of you and you feel like shit but it takes forever to want to go up… Some people does the fingers thing… but I have never ever got it to work tbh.
Nah I just had a long visit with the MIL and there were some times I wished I could have projectile vomited at her to get her to shut up. Really anything to get her to shut up. The topic of the day was how much she hates her sister.
Hahaha ok that too 😅
I used to get both, but when I eat ginger mints it helps
Have you tried eating a ginger? May also help.
That sounds fishy…
I guess they are related no? Like it makes sense to have both.
The issue is seeing movement but you are not physically moving…although the car you are technically moving but… I guess confused the brain as the movement is not caused by you.
In my case I don’t get sick on car ever… And in VR the same, the only exception is on VR I might lose a little bit the orientation and lose my equilibrium for sec but very very rarely and not enough to fall thankfully.
It’s a mismatch between what the eyes see and the ears feel. In nature, this generally only happens when you’ve been poisoned (think drunk). The obvious solution to being poisoned is to empty the stomach, to limit how much more gets absorbed.
The effect is processed at a fairly high level, mentally. This means you can influence it. E.g. if you focus on the difference, in an accepting manner, and your subconscious will stop reacting to it as badly.
Oh interesting, thanks for sharing that.
From what I’ve heard (back when I used Reddit) they aren’t linked, there’s apparently a bunch of people who have one but not the other.
Someone said that it’s cause they’re almost opposite effects- car sickness is when you feel movement but don’t see it, whereas vr sickness is when you see movement but don’t feel it- but I’d take this with a grain of salt since it’s just some random person on Reddit guessing at the cause.
Personally my experience is mostly the same as yours, I don’t get either.
A lot of the people that drive these things are acting like children in adult bodies. I have seen some wildly dumb shit happen. It’s like the car company created by the Darwin Awards…
I literally once saw someone eating on a little folding table/desk of some sort in their Tesla (driver seat, of course) with the dash screen playing some sort of media.
Another time, the person was playing a handheld gaming console of some sort, in the driver seat.
An the automatic lane switching doesn’t adjust for people speeding up in the passing lane well. I’ve seen a couple near accidents there.
I mean the table thing and the gaming sounds cool… The issue is them doing it while “”“driving”“”.
acting? I’m gonna need to see some evidence of that.
People have always been idiots behind the wheel. I started driving before personal electronics and touchscreens were a thing. You still saw people bracing books or newspapers against the steering wheel with their thumbs so they could read as they drove down the highway. Now it’s watching movies, texting or other social media, video conversations, reading…
Just seems that there are way more people doing it. The social contract gets more broken every day.
It was amazing what I saw people doing when commuting in L.A. traffic. Yes, it was very slow. You still could hit the person in front of you!
Or fiddling with the radio / tape player / CD player, or putting on makeup / shaving. People have always done this.
This is one of the top reasons wfh is better. You don’t need to hurry to get ready.
This is one of the things about assisted driving tech that’s always confused me. It seems unlikely that we will have fully self-driving cars soon, but the illusion of being able to be absent while driving seems really dangerous. It doesn’t seem like an improvement to me to remove the human element from most of the driving tasks while also requiring that human to spring into action seemingly at random.
Like don’t get me wrong, people do dumb shit on the road with or without assistance, but having a system that requires human involvement at a zero-to-hero level seems like a bad system.
Then again, based on this actual content, maybe people just shouldn’t be allowed to own vehicles full stop.
It seems unlikely that we will have fully self-driving cars soon
Maybe not from Tesla, but Mercedes already sells 2 cars which have limited Level 3 self driving functionality. Up to 50 mph you are legally allowed to divert your attention from the road and do something else, you just need to be ready to take back control within 10 seconds of the car telling you to do so. Mercedes is so confident in that system that they are taking legal liability for any crashes caused while the car is in self driving mode. And Mercedes is already planning to get the car certified for speeds up to 75mph soon, so it will be usable at regular highway speeds
It’s like they’re competing for being the most punchable.
When HMD becomes permanently part of their face upon airbag deployment they might finally realize it was a bad idea.
Realization might only last for about a millisecond or two.
At some point, doctors are gonna tell a guy, “your face is already irreparably damaged by these AR devices in your sniff… just as an experiment, why not improve the enhancements surgically?” And that’s how cyberpunk 2077 gets on the rails.
Building a new 6 Million Dollar Man.
Except that’s what you now have in medical debt.
Eeesh I didn’t mean to inspire anyone haha
I am more concerned about the innocent people who will pay for the assholes “bad idea” will their lives.
After seeing some people having their face branded with their car logo from the wheel the the airbag fired… actually this might be better protection…
If this prompts the US government, why is the rising pedestrian deaths not promoting action?
Well, the actual causes of pedestrian deaths (big dumb vehicles, infrastructure that more or less necessitates personal vehicle ownership) are the same things that the auto industry lobbies hard for.
See General Motors and jaywalking
It’s Fred. Don’t worry about him at all, he’s really good on speed runs up and down the 5fwy. He always gets home with extra tokens and a good 5000 points.
I wish my Toyota gave me points for driving it!
on today’s episode of “humans testing the limits of natural selection”
Is the US government also alarmed by all the text and driver or the rising pedestrian deaths?
Naw, it’s not topical
Between this and the crApple VR thingy on the NYC subway, this makes me wonder for the fate of humanity.
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