Lol yeah 35k to sign your life away to the government. Ill just smoke weed in my duck costume thank you very much.
I think nowadays it’s more like “35k to join the World Terrorism Organisation ©®™”
I’d choose the duck too
America is terrorist?
Always has been.
You’re the one firing missiles at ships in the Red Sea?
what, two terrorists can’t shoot at each other?
*Insert Spiderman pointing meme
Guilty as charged
It’s not just a hobby but a lifestyle.
They sent a recruiter to my place of employment back when I was in retail. They asked me if I ever thought of joining the armed forces, and I gave them a polite but firm no.
So then they asked “are you happy with where your life is going?”, trying to take advantage of me being a teenager stuck in retail.
Even if they werent asking you to throw your life away in some oil war to protect corporate interests, even if they weren’t asking you to sell your morals away, they’re aggressive assholes. So fuck them they’re getting the treatment they deserve.
Had a recruiter stop by my desk about two years after I enlisted, and tried to pitch the navy to me.
I started laughing at him, then when he got all offended and mentioned me “working in a dead end job in the middle of nowhere” I shot back with “beats DYING in the middle of nowhere, where nobody above your CO will even bother reading the casualty report let alone care” , and that if the navy REALLY wanted me they should have returned my calls after I got a medical discharge for having emergency surgery in basic, then denying my reenlistment due to having a surgery in my adult life.
Of course at this point in my life, with the knowledge and ideals, I wouldn’t touch the MIC with a 899.16cm pole.
Thank you for your take.
Completely unrelated to what you said, I appreciate seeing so many star trek fans around here. It really makes lemmy feel like a home.
I’m a huge trek nerd so this place is basically like A Little Piece of Heaven.
I’m slowly getting my wife into it, but she’s still learning the basics so it’s great to have a place to read and discuss the finer points.
Like how much RICK FUCKING BERMAN sucks ass, and how Captain Jellico may be a good starfleet captain but he’s still an asshole and not a great enterprise captain
m a huge trek nerd so this place is basically like A Little Piece of Heaven.
That’s pretty much exactly how I feel about it top. It’s very refreshing.
m slowly getting my wife into it, but she’s still learning the basics so it’s great to have a place to read and discuss the finer points.
Same. We are currently wrapping up TNG season 1, but we are certainly getting through it, and she loves it enough to keep going which is great.
I usually keep the star trek conversations to my star trek account though.
Like how much RICK FUCKING BERMAN sucks ass, and how Captain Jellico may be a good starfleet captain but he’s still an asshole and not a great enterprise captain
I’ll admit I’m not as familiar with the background stuff like that, but pretty much everything I hear about Berman is not good.
Hey don’t be dismissive of the pole! I have you know that there is a MIl-STD for the pole and only 3 companies are authorized providers for the pole. Do you know how much testing went into that pole? Plus the colonial who headed up the pole project is now working for the approved vendor in umm management of quality.
I VERY NEARLY joined the Army when in my early 20s. What stopped me were two things:
- You sign a contract that says you will do the job for a period but that they don’t guarantee that the job is available and they can put you in any job they want. I realized I could be peeling potatoes for years.
- I couldn’t believe what complete assholes the people in the recruiting center were. You want me to join you? How about being nice?
I ran the hell away from there having done everything except take an oath.
so for most enlisted folks, you have a choice of career paths: recruiting, or drill instructor. both are exceptionally stressful in different ways, but recruiting in this age has got to be the harder one. I’m not going to apologize for dickhead behavior and shitty recruiters, they are certainly out there, but for the most part I just feel bad because they will never meet their numbers in this economy and it often hurts their careers.
Seen many good marines not make it back from recruiting duty. Most people don’t sleep well at night after lying to a child.
yeah it fucks people up; and so does drill instructing - being on post at 3a to see make sure the recruits get to ranges by sunup, long long long hours that don’t give two fucks about your kid’s recital or timmy’s ball game… honestly rough work.
I always found it extremely fucked up that you’re allowed to do di duty with dependents. I don’t really mean the volunteers, they can do what they want. The voluntold with dependents are the ones I felt bad for.
People just up and quit after years of being enlisted because the job hurts?
Slight understatement but the basic jist is there
Thanks.
I don’t feel bad if my local crack dealers don’t sell as much crack as they wanted to, I don’t feel bad if my local kidnappers fail to steal as many children as they’d hoped, and I don’t feel bad for the local military recruiters not making their recruitment numbers.
you do you man. most everyone I knew in the mil was there for school and vet benefits, not because we wanted to murder innocent people in far-off lands. looking at the hellscape out there, it’s not an incomprehensible choice for people with very limited options, aka, lack of trust funds.
$18.50 is all they can offer? They can indeed fuck right on off. In this economy?
18.50? Not even close. You’re working way more than 40 hours a week!
Yeah you’re not clocking out and getting stoned/drunk watching old Cartoon Network shows if you work for the military.
Once you sign, you’re living that life for a chunk of years.
And if you really fuck up, military courts are brutal compared to civilian court.
You’re on the clock 23 hours and 59 minutes of the day. That hourly rate is MUCH lower.
That’s not even minimum wage in Seattle.
Thank you for your service Duck Chad 🫡
Oh shit I didn’t even know there was a salute emoji. TIL 🫡
“We know 35k won’t get you far, but PTSD is forever. Imagine blowing your brains off because you can’t sleep at night!”
This right here is my experience, don’t recommend.
Does Marijuana or psychedelics help with healing this kind of trauma?
No amount of weed can cure a hole in the head
I’m sure it can’t. Only some people ever heal, but few reach incredible levels of happiness.
This applies for everybody, no matter what profession they chose.
Now imagine putting an additional handicap on top by putting yourself in a combat situation, its’ physical and emotional aftermath.This goes for soldiers as well as all civilians caught in the crossfire and finding themselves being used as pawns and targets in a cruel game, as is happening currently in Ukraine and Palestine, as it happened in Syria and its’ city of Aleppo in 2016. And most recently for the American Armed Forces, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The act of being coerced and lied to, or just plain shoved into situations of extreme violence, regarded as little more than meatbags by a powerful, greedy and blunt hand hovering behind it all.
The experience of having to go through something like that, to have been regarded and targeted, then “processed” in such a manner, it has to create a hole in the psyche, make one question one’s self worth.
I’m reminded of when the russian invaders in Ukraine put up billboards with photos and names of their own soldiers who refused to follow orders to participate in the invasion. Who knows what their fate was, what other extreme bullying techniques, including brutality, they might have used to try and force their meatbags to pick up their rifle and march towards the combat area.
They didn’t engage with the defenders, but they lived through the hell of war and will carry wounds that will not heal, even supposing they found their way home.Once coerced, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
No
The people have spoken and the military listened - they lowered enlistment standards. Lol.
Hate your shitty life brought to you by the system?
Come kill people for the system!
Ducks don’t kill people.
Well, they do but only for fun.
The main difference between ducks and the military:
Ducks are prolific rapists.
Wait…
So much so that ducks have developed evolutionary defenses.
For example, do you know why ducks have tail feathers?
To cover their butt quacks!
Depending on where this was and how long ago, this is pretty close to minimum wage in some us states. If they get paid as much to wear a duck costume, at no risk except their pride, why wouldn’t they?
Well, it’s 35k period. Plus the pay from the job, which is usually just straight up work experience in a field like hvac repair (for example).
Let’s be clear, joining the military is not a bad deal monetarily. They will take care of you as far as your career is concerned.
I think it’s a 35k signing bonus on top of the shitty military pay.
But there are benefits to military beyond pay. The free housing and Healthcare alone are worth more than a private’s wages. Enough expenses are covered that 25k a year is actually pretty good for a single person with no education or experience. The retirement benefits and free college education are also very attractive. You have people retiring in their 30s and 40s making good money on top of whatever field they decide to pursue post-military.
I’m no supporter of the MIC, but joining the military can be a good economic and career decision for someone fresh out of high school without any direction.
Yes, free healthcare, GI Bill, free housing, retirement, there are definitely negative things, but there are a lot of upsides, even just doing it for one enlistment can be very beneficial
in the summer of 2022
I think starting salary in US military is closer to $50k now. I remember Trump promised (and one of the things he actually delivered) military pay raises and that’s why he has much support with veterans.
The $35k may have been referring to the sign on bonus. I don’t know if sign on has gotten that high, but it was the first thing I thought of.
Lemonade is all we’ve ever sold.
they’ll bring back slave armies before they let the lack of volunteers actually hamper their efforts to use the military to establish american global dominion
That’s 36 degrees celsius
I prefer proper units… 309K
duck off
LOL isn’t this a self own?
