Robocalls with AI voices to be regulated under Telephone Consumer Protection Act, the agency says. I’m pretty sure this puts us on the timeline where we eventually get incredible, futuristic tech, but computers and robots still sound mechanical and fake.

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    10 months ago

    How does this get enforced though? They don’t even enforce their no call list or cut down on junk robo calls as it is.

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      Don’t undersell the FCC’s rules around robocalling. No, we’re still getting robocalls out the ass, but when it comes from US locations companies get their asses handed to them. The FCC is also the entity that’s pushing the telcos to Make it possible to stop it from overseas sources. The new laws that went in place this year f***** up my twilio automation that was sending me SMS messages on server failures. All of a sudden I have a bunch of paperwork to fill out and a waiting list to be able to send an SMS via API.

      If the FCC wasn’t impeding robocalls as much as it is phones would be useless by now.

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        For the past 2 weeks I have been getting calls from a company claiming to register companies for voice search optimization. I’ve repeatedly told them to stop calling me, to which they respond that the calls won’t relent until I sign up with their service. I’ve been threatened, mocked, and just straight hung up on, so now I enjoy just waisting as much of their time as possible. I filed a complaint last week, so I’m just logging all their calls to increase the inevitable fine (they’re US based, all of the agents are clearly American).

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          10 months ago

          tell them you’re interested, keep them on the line for as much time as possible, waste them every time. that becomes expensive for them at a point.

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        10 months ago

        I feel like most of the decent filtering of these types of calls are happening at the carrier level at this point. At least in my experience. They’ve been getting better at filtering them out before your phone even rings…

        But I’m not sure that’s how it should be. This is why regulatory agencies exist in the first place. What’s the point if there is zero enforcement?

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        10 months ago

        I also had the same setup and the same result from the A2P bullshit. Switched to email and DeltaChat instead and will be happy when I finish it lol.

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            10 months ago

            For me that would be swapping out one rug pull for an inevitable other down the road, but thanks for the suggestion ♥️

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              10 months ago

              I was more than willing to pay for them, they want five accounts though. Like give me some way to pay for you that actually makes sense I’m totally down for it.

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                10 months ago

                Absolutely! Services that are provided for free with no (reasonable) way to pay for at a hobby level are a huge bugbear of mine.

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      Most robo calls are not illegal as long as you follow the rules the FTC laid down.

      This would have ban AI generated voices, so regardless of the content of the robo call, if it used in AI voice it would be illegal.

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      10 months ago

      Exactly. Laws have no meaning if you don’t enforce them or enforce them selectively.

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      10 months ago

      politicians use them for campaigning so unlikely, but yeah they should ban robo calls that haven’t been pre-authorized (having the pharmacy or whatever call should still be legal)

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    10 months ago

    It seems like most people are missing “under existing law”

    Nothing is changing. The FCC is simply putting to a vote clarifying that “yes, the prohibitions regarding automated calling apply to AI generated voices too.”

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    How about this: if I get a robocall advertising a product/service or a politician’s campaign I get that product or service for FREE and if it’s for a politician they lose $25k from their pac or Superfund for each report (which gets donated to their opponent)?

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      yeah then you’ll have even more GOC money funding fake “Democratic Party” robocalls.

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        Yea except if we have a publishable reporting system (for robocalls, like the ones you’re making up rn) it won’t work like that will it? Being that the concept changes the status quo… This isn’t super difficult to figure out if you try ;)

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        Sounds like a semantic debate. Yes, third parties exist but they don’t get enough votes to win in a FPTP voting system.

        I’ll concede if you can show me where a third party has won a POTUS spot in the last 60 years.Sadly the history tells a different story.

        Maybe the 25k can just go to me as a victim, then.

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            Divide it up amongst them all? Is it that hard?

            Is this entire thread just semantic debates over my opinions or what lmao

            The idea of this being a ‘punishment’ isn’t from the direct loss of financial support, but the aid to opponents. It doesn’t matter who it goes to as long as it isn’t the one using robocalls to canvas voters.

            Do you think I’d get 10-15 GOP funding texts and calls a week if each one was a chance for me to use their funds to help their opponents? I don’t.

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    10 months ago

    Scammers who are just recording their voice: “Oh ok we’re good”

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      10 months ago

      I accidentally deleted that voice mail from the public benefits department a couple days ago and they haven’t called back yet ☹️

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    10 months ago

    didn’t this happen a long time ago under Bill Clinton or something? what the fuck happened?

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    10 months ago

    This has made me wonder… have any other europeans ever had problems with these?

    I don’t recall ever having been called by a robot.

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      One of the reasons might be that a) robo calls are illegal here, and b) if someone uses them, they are easy to hunt down.

      I once got some robocalls, all of the same makeup telling me I had won a car and should call a premium number to claim it (Ha!). I just reported those numbers to the local equivalent of the FCC, and they took it down within days.

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    10 months ago

    Does this include google assistant making robocalls or answering my phone on my behalf? I sometimes use it to setup hair cut appointments.

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      10 months ago

      Wait you can use Google Assistant to make calls? I just use it to filter out spam calls without answering.