‘Our long-term objective is to make printing a subscription’ says HP CEO gunning for 2024’s Worst Person of the Year award | Not satisfied with merely bricking printers, HP now wants to own them al…::It was only the other day we reported how HP has been slapped with a lawsuit in response to measures that disable its printers when fitted with a third-party ink cartridge. Now the company’s CEO,

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      I have a Brother laserjet I got on Amazon for $70 10 years ago. I print on it occasionally, and it always works. That thing has never needed new toner. It never jams. It just keeps going. Highly recommend finding a basic laserjet model from that brand.

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        Companies can change. I have a HP LaserJet 6P that I use with a LPT-to-USB adapter. That thing still works fine. From that anecdote I could also highly recommend HP. But that printer is now 25 years old or so and the company changed a lot since then.

        Brother could have changed in those 10 years. Or it could change in 10 more years.

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      I’ll go one step further and never buy another HP product of any kind!

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    Just happened today:

    Employee asks for toner for an aging HP Laserjet printer since it’s out. I look it up and it’s $198 for black (it’s not a color laser). I immediately looked up a Brother laser with an ADF scanner/copier and it was $199. High Yield Toner is $15 without a chip from a reputable 3rd party. Office is getting a new Brother printer delivered tomorrow and it’ll work 100x better.

    HP, this is how you kill your printer division. Short sighted idiots.

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      High Yield Toner is $15 without a chip from a reputable 3rd party.

      What are some reputable toner companies? I just ordered some E-Z Ink brand toner for my Brother printer, and I’d like to know if I should cancel it and go with a different brand instead.

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      My inkjet hp started to throw error codes at me last month.

      I bought a refurbished brother laser printer and that thing is awesome

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        You can do even better buying plain old used instead of refurbished.

        I got a pair of MFC-9340CDWs – with duplex and color – off Craigslist for like $50 each a couple of years ago (one to use, and one as a spare). Even if I have to buy a new fuser relatively soon because the ones in both of them are almost worn out, it’s still an incredible deal.

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        Yeah, their refurbs are great if you can get one before they sell out. That’s how I scored my first Brother for $99. Thing is a champ at home.

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    How much I would love if EU pulled a USB-C on printer ink/toner.

    “All printers must be compatible with one of these X possible formats of ink/toner. Lockdown is forbidden too”

    Sure the printers would be more expensive but I am sure we would see an incredible improvement in quality and decrease in ink/toner cost

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        Right? This is just deregulated capitalism being really good at extracting wealth from us peons.

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    1. Buy Brother, better printers without all this subscription garbage.

    2. How long before an ‘open source’ printer hots the market and terrifies this idiot CEO?

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      OkiData makes good business class printers too. The upfront cost is high, but the cost per page is low, so if you’re printing high volume then it’s cheaper overall.

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      Very happy with my Brother laser printer so far. It just works. Hasn’t held my prints hostage for any online ink subscription renewals… yet…

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    It’s simple actually. Don’t buy HP products. Even their laptops have huge quality issues and flawed motherboard designs. Their firmware updates are known to brick motherboards. Even if you are under warranty, they won’t give you a new board, instead they’ll give you a refurbished board. FUCK YOU HP.

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    what a literal fucking psychopath. i mean literally imagine waking up and thinking these things. imagine trying to actively make the world worse like this.

    oh yeah i’m trying to make bathrooms a subscription

    i’m trying to make food a subscription

    i’m trying to make tv a subscription

    i’m trying to make clothes a subscription

    i cannot wait to live in paradise

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      This is what every MBA lives and breathes. He’s just saying it out loud. Which up until now was a faux paw.

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    With each new HP news article I grow more pleased with last year’s decision to ditch HP once and for all and get a Brother.

    The Brother just works. Even surprises me in some scenarios where I anticipate lack of support and it comes through anyway. Great printer!

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    This is why for the one or two times I need to print something a year I just go to the library and pay them $0.10 a page to print something out.

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      I bought a refurbished laser printer at a garage sale for $30 8 years ago. Still printing off the original toner

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      My printing has become so incredibly rare that even paying $0.50 per page st a ups/fed ex store is a better deal than having a printer. I’m not even sure the printer my wife insists on keeping is compatible with windows 11, which is basically all our PCs now.

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    I don’t own a printer because the cost to constantly refill cartrages feels like a subscription already. I just go to the UPS store for the 3 times a year I actually need to print something, on a for-realsies printer that someone else maintains. usually costs less than a dollar every time I go.

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    The moral of the story is don’t buy HP anything. Already trying to replace our large format latex printer from HP over this. Fuck that guy.

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    Canon understands that selling a printer with a maintenance contract is a viable way to do business…to business.

    That’s a place where the option is very much appreciated.

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        I can’t believe there aren’t any start-ups out there trying to “disrupt” the printer market

        Because in reality, printing is really not needed in most homes given the advent of paperless billing. I was still sneaking my essential documents to the work printer for many years, and even at the height of the pandemic, I was free printing at the library.

        HP clearly wants to milk any small businesses for what they have with this, larger companies are already leasing the printers from the OG nickel and dimer: Xerox.

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      It would be so easy for all of us to come together and “disrupt the market”, but we don’t. If we collectively get together, like a crowd-funded FOSS alternative, and build this shit ourselves and sell it, that would wreak havoc with the game these leeches play, but we don’t.

      WHY don’t we.

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      As far as I know, there aren’t even any Chinese companies trying to enter into this market. Xiaomi has a few high-priced inkjet printers and that’s it.

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      You can probably rig an old dot matrix printer to work on modern machines. Convert the serial plug to usb by crimping some cables, and I would bet dollars to donuts that there are drivers out there.

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      Ive been thinking about this recently. We have essentially done that for 3D printers from the start. We should absolutely do this for 2D printers