“This is the story of the revelation in late 2013 that Bitcoin was, in fact, the opposite of untraceable—that its blockchain would actually allow researchers, tech companies, and law enforcement to trace and identify users with even more transparency than the existing financial system.”

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      11 months ago

      An article in Wired doesn’t speak to the “crypto space”, they speak to your aunt and uncle in Missouri who don’t know about this.

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          St. Louis has a decent tech scene, AT&T used to have their headquarters there. There’s still a large tech presence there, low cost of living drives tech companies to hire there since they can pay lower wages and no one in the area really cares since you can still get a two bedroom apartment for less than $1,000 a month.

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          11 months ago

          I mean I’m an absolute troglodyte when it comes to technology and I’m here too. Hi!

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      And yet, crypto bros love pushing the false narrative that bitcoin is an untraceable currency of the future.

      In reality, anyone that’s looked into crypto in all its popular forms knows it’s just a ponzi scheme.

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    Transactions are public. But wallet ownership is not.

    That’s why it’s widely used in cybercrime. You can make a wallet and authorities may know which wallet receibe the money, but it may be imposible to link that wallet with an actual person.

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      Yeah, but retrieving actual useful currency from that wallet becomes nearly impossible. At that point, the only way, really, is peer-to-peer transaction. And even then, it seems fraught.

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        Yeah, but retrieving actual useful currency from that wallet becomes nearly impossible.

        Then how do people set up drug empires built around it?

        Use your brains.

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      And it becomes much, much easier to track down and remove anonymity the moment real currency transactions are made. Because of KYC requirements, the only way to stay anonymous with crypto is to keep your crypto transactions entirely outside of the real world. Once your digital anonymous currency interacts with real money you’ve not anchored your wallet to your identity.

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    This has to be the most convoluted way of saying someone clustered wallet addresses of a public blockchain. I’m sure there’s much more to her work, but this beats so much around the bush… I’m not going to speculate on the author’s motivations for this article, I’ll just say I wouldn’t waste (more) time on it.

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    Which part of public ledger they don’t understand?

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    The main way criminals are caught is when they transfer their crypto to an exchange so they can convert it to cash. Law enforcement will subpoena the exange and ask “Hey, who exchanged 0.7886 bitcoin for cash on this date?” and they will get their identity. Using the public ledger, they will be able to trace the transactions done and show that this person sent money to an address advertised as belonging to a trafficking site, an illegal market, or recieved money from the bad wallet address.

    The address owner is anonymous until there is a source of data that ties information the wallet, and often transactions can be used to do that, just as any way to advertise a wallet belongs to you can, or any way to exchange crypto to cash can.

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    There should be more education on the difference between “privacy being available if you look for it” VS “privacy being ensured since the beginning and forever no matter what

    Spoiler: the last one does not exists

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      Spoiler: the last one does not exists

      Maybe technically… But we’ve come up with some pretty ridiculous cryptography schemes that would take billions of years to crack.

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        You would be surprised in finding out that the majority of blockchains out there aren’t Quantum resistant, tho (elliptic curves being the reason mainly but I am not an expert)

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    I don’t think this story is correct, just to chime in with everybody else. It was explicitly stated that bitcoin was a public ledger in the whitepaper.

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      There’s a difference between “bitcoin is a public ledger” and “we can determine that Alice paid Bob 1 bitcoin”.

      The bitcoin devs thought they could achieve the “public ledger” part while avoiding the second part. It turns out they couldn’t.

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    I knew this in 2007 when I heard about shitcoin. A ledger is a collection of transactions which is widely share, yep sure confedental…

    Seriously how stupid can ya be?

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      That’s crazy that you heard about crypto before it was created in 2008. Are you Satoshi? Did Hal Finney get Internet installed in his casket?

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        So they were off by one year. This was years ago. Hell, I thought I remember reading about it in 2000,apparently not. I’m probably mentally conflating it with the white papers I was reading in the late 90’s, some of my more technical coworkers at that company (which I left in 2000) were hot on what we now call crypto currency.

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        Sorry I missed a year ya pedantic donkey

        I heard about it around that time and it was as stupid then as it is now

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          as stupid as they are, if you had installed it and mined it for a few minutes, you’d be millionaire now.

          I assume that’s why they enrage you.

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            Ass U Me more. Money is not a motivational factor for all. There is virtually no benefit of crypto currencies that arent out weighed by all the negative factors.

            If im gonna needlessly waste money it will be for research (folding@home) This is at least benefits others