• Alex@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I’ve just started a Voyager run through with my kids. Dare I say S1 of Voyager is a much better introduction to “modern” Trek than the fairly uneven S1 TNG? I think Janeway is underrated as a Star Fleet captain.

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        1 year ago

        They’re not quite as terrible as their reputation. Yeah, they’ve definitely got some of the worst episodes of Trek ever, but there are good ones in there, too.

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          1 year ago

          Oh man. It’s the only one where they actually don’t boldly go anywhere. I’ve always had trouble with that and probably actually need therapy because of it. It took me a long time to even accept it as real star trek.

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            1 year ago

            I love character-driven narratives, so DS9 is easily the best Star Trek for me that I’ve seen. I think the only series that I haven’t seen is Lower Decks.

            I would claim that Voyager is objectively worse than DS9, though. A big part of it is how many terrible episodes come from each series. With DS9, there are only a few episodes sprinkled here and there that are terrible. With Voyager, it had to be at least 1 out of every 3 episodes that were terrible.

            Of course, these two series have completely different standards. Both standards are about whether they deliver an episode that is fulfilling and makes sense.

            DS9 is completely serial. A good show has character development and progresses the main plot due to some event or other intrigue that happens. If you don’t like Star Treks where they “boldly stay home”, then all of the Vic Fontaine episodes would be terrible, but Vic was like this perfect tool to try to round out all of the character development at the series end.

            On the other hand, a good Voyager episode is a sort of alien of the week. That’s what would make sense, because they were traveling in a straight line home. Yet they nonsensically had all sorts of recurring characters that they came across. Recurring races is fine. In fact, you’d almost expect to have like one or two major races that are the villains per season… but recurring characters? Really??

            Voyager could have been the perfection of Roddenberry’s ideal Star Trek. Almost purely episodic. Heroic cast solving problems every episode. They even have the best excuse for taking the ship into the most stupidly dangerous situations. They were desperate for supplies to get home. I don’t know that any Star Trek had such an easy set up. How did they have so many bad episodes??

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        1 year ago

        Last part of last year, that “channel” was Voyager. At midnight Pacific on new years it rolled to DS9 instead.

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            For now. My guess is it’ll be DS9 for all of this quarter. It’s already gone through all of DS9 once so far. It just restarted this morning. Then I assume next quarter and I’ll switch back to Voyager. I think that’s what they’re doing with the other Star Trek channel as well bouncing between the original series and next generation.

            Because when it cut over from Voyager to DS9 it wasn’t at the end of Voyager. It was up to the episode where they find the ship with the neural interface that sort of takes over Tom. And then immediately following that was the first episode of DS9, and that was January 1st. It was 2:00 a.m. my time but midnight Pacific Coast.

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    I’m finally watching star trek with my girlfriend and getting her into it. Been watching along with her on TNG. So far we are about done with season 1, but I am big excited to re-watch DS9 se5, especially with her watching it for the first time by my side.

    Gonna have to brave the awful ass se1 Sisko haircut though lol.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I’m impressed that you’ve managed to get her to watch s1 of TNG! I’ve been thinking about trying to talk my wife into watching it and was thinking we’d start on season 3.

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        She has been very persistent about knowing the background for everything. It bothers her to be dropped in the middle of something without the context.

        So she wanted to start at the “very beginning”, which in my mind is TNG season 1. The original series is great, but I figured she’d enjoy it more after having already gotten into trek.

        She is throughly enjoying the cheesy-ness of it though, which is really good.

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    I’m doing a chronological rewatch of the whole franchise and am at the episodes where DS9 and Voyager overlap. It is mind boggling how much better DS9 is. I find myself wanting to skip almost every Voyager episode so I can just get to the DS9 ones.

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    1 year ago

    Deep space nine… Wow I can watch that again it’s been decades… Am I old now?

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    1 year ago

    That could be me 100%. My heart then usually adds that it’s a shame that there is no remastered version with high resolution T_T

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    1 year ago

    My unpopular opinion is that most of DS9 is poorly written, and often doesn’t even have a B story.