Canada to announce all new cars must be zero emissions by 2035::Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

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    Love this, but fucking hate having to deal with all the push back from Polievre, the Conservatives, Alberta, etc. Just hate seeing political ads masquerading as polls, or oil and gas companies trying to greenwash themselves, or the endless amount of idiotic comments from people who still don’t believe in climate change.

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    Yah, this is something conceived in a urban environment with high population density, and relatively warm weather, like Vancouver and Toronto.

    It ignores about 95% of the country that has no mass transit and hits -20 and lower for 6 months of the year. There will need to be absolutely massive investments in technology for cold weather EV and power infrastructure to deliver a huge uptick in charging power across a massively spread out country. And our sources for renewable energy are pretty much used up, hydro hasn’t got a lot of possibilities left. Solar is awesome, but not a great producer this far north. Wind is only viable in a few localized spots and then you hae to get the power to the users from there.

    Typical virtue signalling bullshit that’s not even vaguely realistic.

    I have 27kW of solar panels , 5 days of battery storage on my house, extremely low energy usage (10kWh/day), and I still have to fire up the genny this time of year about once a week. And I don’t have to charge an EV.

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      Technically, with HVO, diesel engines can run without emissions. So “EV only” is not necessarily what this means…

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      We’ll just have to carry gas generators on our electric trucks to drive to work in the bush I guess.

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      If they set a 10 year goal it may take 20 years to hit 80% of goals, if they set a 20 year goal it’ll take 40 years to hit 50%, if they set a 50 year goal…

      Nobody thinks this is a realistic goal, but the target gives a concrete number to set a mandate on which actually pragmatic policies, funding projects, and incentives can hang their hat on to keep the ball rolling.

      With big infrastructure developments, nobody wants to buy into realistic goals, it’s too costly, and there’s never enough political will. You set overly ambitious goals so you can get people to buy in and then the project is too big to fail, so you end up paying what it actually costs, and you try to mitigate waste, unanticipated problems, corruption, and poor management along the way.

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      *brake

      And it should, it’s fairly toxic. Fortunately EV’s primarily and almost exclusively use regen.

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      Of the direct operational sources of pollution:

      • co2 - none
      • ozone and exhaust particulates - none
      • brake dust - almost none
      • oil and fuel leaks - none
      • tire dust - 20% more

      EVs may not be perfect but they’re a HUGE improvement.

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      Don’t look at what powers the power plants. Just sit back and think you’re enjoying your zero emissions cars

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      Looks like Canada’s grid has damn close to 0% coal and rapidly being phased out

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      Huh, here in Massachusetts, we’re trying to push through some long distance power lines so we can buy some of that sweet Canadian hydro.

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    Is that no emissions at all along the cars life from production to scrap? Cus EVs today are in large just virtue vehicles.

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      Dependable and available public transit is the answer to our transportation needs with electric vehicles substituted in areas where public transit presents implementation challenges.

      Electric cars cannot be the backbone of our system if we look to reduce emissions and environmental hazards to a level that allows us to continue existence as we know it.

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        In Canada?

        Obviously the metro areas and immediate surrounding suburbs can improve, but it’s a huge country

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          I dunno some intercity buses and trains would be nice… Like unless you can fly or rent a car I don’t know how you get to most of the country without your own car.

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            I do mean that. Where did I suggest otherwise? Is Canada big a huge country?

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        Hahahaha public transit.

        Have you looked at the energy/environmental costs of trains or busses?

        Hint: they both consume the same energy fully loaded or empty, as a start.

        And train infrastructure is a massive user of concrete, steel, copper, etc.

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      Carbon tax deals with industries that creates emissions by taxing the fuels that cause the emissions. All businesses involved in making EVs and EV parts can choose between using taxed GhG-emitting fuels, or non-taxed cheaper renewable sources. Free markets will pick the winner, but at least all winners will be producing EVs only.