Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police

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    Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.

    what the fuck is going on over there

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    I’ve tried to understand what the charges are, as far as I could tell it seems it’s somehow related to an anti terrorist law and caused by the kid pulling someone’s hair and gesturing to cut paper with scissors, which was interpreted as gesturing to cut a finger.

    The article seems to try very hard to obfuscate the actual reason (I’m guessing for legal reasons?)

    In any case, this seems insane, seems like excessive overreaction from everyone involved.

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      The whole thing is weird.

      His ordeal began five days later. In the late morning of September 8, Timothy was pulled out of music class and ushered into a room where he found Garza, Assistant Principal Michelle Saucedo, a district police officer, and a counselor sent from the district’s central administrative office. He was told another student had just reported that Timothy said he was planning to kill the principal. Rincon said she was called and rushed to the school but was not allowed to be in the room while Timothy was being questioned.

      “When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”

      Timothy told me he had explained to the school and district officials that the accusations were not true, that the only conversation he had that morning was with two other boys about wearing his sweater over his uniform.

      Rincon has received only a school conduct referral form, on which administrators wrote that “Timothy told another student that his hair was messy because he was up all night to come up with a plan to kill Mrs. Garza (principal).” Underneath, Timothy wrote: “No I was not up all night I just forgot [to comb my hair].”

      On the bottom of the form, administrators had written: “OSS [out-of-school suspension] 3 days 9/11-9/13.”

      https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/

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        So it started with a kid who made up a really tall tale, told it to an adult in the form of completely unsubstantiated hearsay, which the admins for some mysterious reason chose to belief. Those admins must be either stupid or malicious.

        I’m leaning towards maliciousness, jealousy and spite as the most likely reasons for why this is happening.

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    Obviously the cops and prosecutors are real shitheads here, but I think some blame goes to a piece of shit principal who woukd call the police on an 11 year old.

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      She also apparently called CPS on a different mother for questioning her special education program.

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      None of them should have any kind of power over others. If we ever manage to fix this system despite the dipshits that are trying to break it further, whether system comes next should have a specific focus on preventing people like this from getting power or keeping it if they manage to hide themselves until after they’ve gained power.

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      And also the stupid law that allows charges against children. Our system of kids under 14 not being “strafmündig” (criminally responsible) is often criticized and has other issues sometimes but at least it prevents shit like this

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    Despite being accused of ignoring Texas laws which require parental involvement before such interventions, Cameron County District Attorney Rene Garza told a hearing Wednesday that his office was gathering further evidence against Murray, rather than deciding to drop the charges.

    If the law protects you, it will be ignored and the people who ignore it will face no consequences for their lawlessness. The law is for hurting you, and only laws that hurt you count.

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      i cant stop laughing at the idea of the grown ass adults asking a 10 year old boy if be wanted to hurt himself whilenin handcuffs so they put him in a turtle suit and solitary his ass

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    Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.

    What the everliving fuck is wrong with these people?

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    This is the same detention center that had an employee who embezzled 1.2 million dollars worth of fajitas over the course of 9 years. He only got caught because he took the day off to go to a doctor’s appointment and a delivery of 800lbs of skirt steak showed up that no one else was expecting.

    What I’m saying here is the Darrell B. Hester Juvenile Detention Center isn’t known for the fastidious oversight of its employees.

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    Well thats just an entire chain of people that are so completely divorced from reality, common sense, and compassion, that humanity would only benefit from them being skimmed out of the gene pool.

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    One mother said that, after a meeting with Garza about her 5-year-old in which her own mom questioned the school’s special education plan for the boy, Garza called Child Protective Services on her.

    Garza’s mom questioned it? Or the 5yr old’s? Or the mother of the 5yr old’s? Who is “her” referencing?

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        You may want to reconsider your own reading comprehension.

        One mother said that, after a meeting… in which her own mom questioned the school’s… [plans], Garza called Child Protective Services on her.

        Who is her and her own mom?

        It is not specified at all.

        You also completely failed to address the question at hand. OP asked who the “her” in “her own mom” is referring to. Your modified sentence doesn’t even acknowledge the “her” in question.

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      Easy there. Finding reason to defund public schools is Greg Abbot’s wet dream. It’s the first step toward his goal of state vouchers to religious schools.

      Also consider that Brownsville is a border town of mostly Hispanic residents. What better sacrificial lamb to demonstrate the evils of public schools?

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    if you actually want to protect kids, this is the shit you form a posse to go protect right? for all the people worried about children this is where you would show up at the court and/or prison and demand their release?

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      Dude this is in Uvalde. They already let a couple of fat cops prevent them from saving their kids.