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      A lot of linux desktop environments will break as well if you remove some seemingly useless package

      $sudo apt remove kwrite

      The following packages with also be REMOVED: kde-plasma-desktop, [all the other KDE desktop packages]

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      Shut the fuck up man literally every single post about any other operating system is “SWITCH TO LINUX, YOU WON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH LINUX!!! LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER LINUX IS!!! LINUXXXXXXXX!!!”

      All it does is give all the circle jerkers a reason to spam comments and not listen to anybody else’s opinions besides their own and it does absolutely nothing helpful for the post

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      So his Meme is correct the system will break if you force it to uninstall something?

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          Its more of the dependency chain. I wouldn’t consider tying your taskbar, web browser, and other microservices together like that a good thing in any ecosystem. Its not really the fact that removing system files breaks your system. Its that the taskbar and web browser should not be considered Core. People want to choose and not have their non-choice staring at them with their new gurl from the sidelines.

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              Do you use Android? Chrome is the native WebView that a good chunk of your apps use.

              Wait… so you are talking about webviews when I was talking about the actual browser? Lmao… talk about a false equivalency.

              This is got many advantages and many disavantages. If you dislike it, fair enough - but let’s not pretend this is unusual or somehow unjustifiable.

              I’m talking about forcing the actual browser installation. Nothing you said has countered this, Android doesn’t force Chrome to be installed for webviews in applications. The webview class is nothing close to being a full browser, and certainly doesn’t require a browser to be installed to use it. If anything, that is an example of the right way to do it… having a separate class, that is not dependent on the actual browser installation.

              Yes, please go on, I can’t wait to hear more of your ridiculous takes.

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                You can easily remove Edge but need to install Edge WebView.

                The person you are replying to is completely right and you’re wrong.

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                  webview != browser… what is so hard to understand about this? The fact that an OS is reliant on a browser out of the box, is absolutely ridiculous. If all these app dependencies were on the Edge Webview base instead of pointed at the actual browser installation, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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          There’s a “Getting Started” app built in to win11 that is both completely useless and totally unremovable by any method without breaking the OS.

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            That’s because it’s not an app. Do “Winget list” and you’ll see it’s not there.

            It’s part of the shell. Open it up, look at task manager, and you’ll see it’s not spawning new processes. Which also mean it’s irrelevant - it doesn’t add any background tasks, modifies any files or in anyway interfere with the users. It’s quite literally just an icon created by the shell.

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        Most things are probably fine, though Windows updates might do something funky or just put it back from where you threw out that trash.

        But Edge is a different story. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to make Edge, their web browser, essential for Windows Explorer, their file manager and desktop among other things, to function properly.

        So if you get rid of Edge, things can get kinda fucky. I haven’t looked into if someone has made a workaround, I know that there are modified “debloated” Windows installs that do some heavy duty mucking about in there, but I don’t know if anyone’s figure out how to give Edge the ax without making your desktop freak out.

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        Yes, though I’m pretty sure I’ve uninstalled or atleast disabled cortana with no problems

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    Once, 2ish years ago I think by now? I was trying to clean up all the shit I installed to compile something because it wasnt available on apt, had a repository, or had a .deb (I was on ubuntu at the time).

    I mistyped something and ended up removing Python. Got no warning, no red text, no nothing. It just uninstalled it as if it was nothing.

    I rebooted, and learned that a lot of fucking shit depends on python. because I no longer had a DE and could only boot into a terminal. after 2 hours of trying to unfuck it, I just used a live cd to save what files I could and reinstalled.

    Oh, and I never got the program compiled and working. and never tried again on the fresh install. I dont even remember what it was now. Something for gaming, probably.

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      The great advantage of Linux is the freedom to do as you please, but it also assumes that you know what you are doing. Windows also allows you to do everything, but only if you ignore the hysterical attacks of the System, but you must also know what you are doing.

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        an OS should never assume the user knows what its doing, cause users are idiots, even the smart ones. especially the smart ones. lol

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          Yes, thats the difference, Linux assume that the user knows exactly what he’s doing, Windows assume that the user is a Banjoplaying Redneck.

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            an OS should never assume the user knows what its doing, cause users are idiots, even the smart ones. especially the smart ones. lol

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    Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy, BUT ONLY if the first thing you do in a new PC with Windows, to spend an afternoon disabling and throwing out a ton of junk, trials, unnecessary services and functions and most of the telemetry. So if you have a fast and compliant OS. Luckily Windows allows all this, but naturally it requires an advanced user (registry and servicelists can be a comanche territory if you don’t exacly know what you do) and M$ does not offer much documentation and help on this topic either, of course. But in the new online subscription version they will naturally nip these possibilities in the bud.

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      Just the fact that windows has a hidden “true administrator” account that you have to use for some stuff, and is not easily accessible makes it way harder to take control of your own hardware.

      Linux has the same thing, with the root account, but you can access it from a single sudo su command in a terminal (which is mostly pointless since sudo itself executes commands with the highest priviledges).

      Also, Microsoft, not every damn thing needs a GUI. I’d rather have a good command line experience than having to trifle through the registry.

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        I know all this, I already mentioned elsewhere that I laugh when some users say they don’t use Linux, because it is an OS for advanced users. No, it is precisely Windows that requires a more advanced user than Linux, when you really need to modify something, which naturally cannot be done with the GUI and requires using the console (cmd). On Linux this is the rule for everything (although less and less), on Windows you can do most of it with GUI, but not all of it, if you don’t want to use a third party app. In General Windows is only easier and more intuitive to use superficially, but in depth it is a minefield, much more complicated and less intuitive than Linux.

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      Lol, I am viewed as an absolute Wizard by some of my friends in IT, because I am not at all afraid of RegEdit. Just don’t touch anything at all without triple checking that that is in fact the key you want to be playing with.

      I’ll have to remember “Comanche Territory”!

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        Use Winternals sysmon to suss out problem registry keys and file permissions and their minds will be blown.

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        Yes, no much problem with the cleartext software part, but the other where you see only numbers are not so easy, just easy to turn your PC into a Paperweight. This really isn’t very intuitive

        Easier the Services, although you can also screw up there

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      What trials?

      Only thing I had to remove was Skype and there are tools that let you do whatever you want in a matter of minutes.

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            I don’t know, I’ve the Home edition and this came by default with a lot of crap and services to “improve the User experience” as they call it euphemistically and that can only be understood sarcastically.

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            Yeah, cause shockingly enterprise customers don’t like the idea of microsoft taking big chunks of data for no rhyme or reason.

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      Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy

      {Looks around confused}

      What the hell dimension did I walk into?!?

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        I mean, hes not wrong if hes talking about Windows 7.

        if hes talking about 10 or 11, then the dudes clearly on LSD.

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          At least W10 in this point isn`t different from W7, not sure in W11 and user intervencion with W12 and W365 online with subscription ends completely. Until now you can still gut Windows to your like, without LSD, maybe with some Tranxilium.

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        Read also the rest what is necessary to make Windows private and stable. Nothing new that Windows by default is a privacy nightmare, but you can change it, but how to do this is not in the Windows Helpfile.

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          If my OS installs broken by default. I’m just going to use something that’s not broken. Simple as that.

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    i can’t open .webp files anymore because edge doesn’t exist anymore, and i’m too lazy to change the “default opener program™”.