Kelsey Grammer sounded curt this morning when he brusquely told a BBC Today program interviewer that he still supports Donald Trump but, according to his interviewer, this curtness doesn’t tell the full story.
Grammer’s interviewer Justin Webb said the Frasier star was “perfectly happy” to go on talking about his support for the former POTUS, “the Paramount+ PR team, less so.”
Grammer has previously expressed support for Trump – a relatively rare position for a TV and movie star to take – and he also used his BBC interview to back Roseanne Barr, another self-confessed Trump supporter.
Frasier was on my backlog of stuff to watch. It’s nice when my backlog clears itself like this.
I mean… no Niles, no care
Yep! Buh bye now. Buh bye.
One must seperate the art from the artist. Do u also avoid listening to michael jackson?
One doesn’t have to, if one doesn’t want to. I don’t listen much to Michael Jackson (though I have a soft spot for Thriller), but I’m also not 100% sold on the allegations made against him.
Sure u dont have to do anything. But if are to hold urself to ur own standards u set for urself you have cut urself off from a majority of art throughout history. For example by ur own standards then u cant look at anything by Caravaggio, Paul Gauguin, Richard Wagner, Jackson Pollock, etc etc. Whats the purpose of artwork if not to express something. Can you express anything if an artwork is to be judge by ur charecter and not by itself?
I draw the line at the artist’s life. I think there’s a world of difference between appreciating a Van Gogh, and buying a book by J. K. Rowling. Van Gogh terrorized a woman and sent her his ear, but he’s dead, so any “support” I give him doesn’t help him. Whereas J. K. Rowling and Kelsey Grammer are alive and supported by their art. And I refuse to be part of that support.
So pirating it would solve ur issues? U can enjoy the art seperated from author without having to support them.
Sure, if I was that motivated. Though there is the question of how much his world view is expressed in his work, and how much I want to expose myself to it. But at the end of the day, I’ve gone, what, 30 years without watching Frasier? I don’t need to see it. There are plenty of other TV shows I can watch.
U said it was in ur backlog all ur issues have been solved other than potentialy exposing urself to an ideology u disagree with. Why dont u wanna expose urself to an idealogy u disgree with? Are you scared that it might change your mind?
Ohh and for the record idk what a fraser is and have absolutly no idea what sort of beliefs are in it.
Real question: is looking illiterate worth the two letter savings?
U know what grammar nazis and regular nazis have in common? They both found there ideology in moronic concepts of purity.
Right wingers and remembering death of the author whenever it turns out the author is a shithead, name a more iconic duo
So ur saying an artwork should not be judged on the merit of its content but the merit of it creator?
Kelsey Grammar has always been a bible bashing whack job.
Just go look up his late night interview where he talks about how he randomly opens the bible to answer the question ‘how long will I live for?’ And is satisfied that god answers him by saying he will live to 160 (or some other ridiculous figure I can’t remember).
Seriously he thinks the bible is a magic eight ball and god is guiding what page it turns to.
Ok but like… I just realized there’s nothing stopping me from using random books like this and it seems kinda fun
I mean it can be
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Lol this guy’s jizz doesn’t make him invisible.
Non sequitur
Clearly, the writers just followed him around and wrote down what he said whenever they had a Sideshow Bob episode.
Probably yes.
The real mystery is how did they get Kevin Sorbo to play Hercules, I mean surely a religious fanatic like him is horrified knowing that he played a pagan God
Because christians never really stopped worshipping that golden calf. They all went along with Moses because he got super pissed, but behind his back they were all “that golden calf though…”
Indeed, I’m not a Christian but I have a close Catholic friend of mine, and although I no longer believe in supernatural, I wish I did but can only Chase rainbows so long until you realize there’s no gold, but one thing we definitely see eye to eye on is that we want to kick anyone who preaches Prosperity Gospel in the goddamn teeth, and then the dick, and then the teeth again, and then kick their ass until their head falls off then kick the head and then kick the ass again because I don’t think it’s learned it’s lesson
“Kelsey! Stop telling people the truth about yourself! Paramount+ is hemorrhaging money!”
When wasn’t it?
I don’t know, but they’re worried about it now and they were okay with it when they started.
All the media companies wanted to be Netflix and so they invested heavily at the same time and flooded the market. Then wanted make more money so they added advertising. Now they ask why everyone left.
Paramount+ invested in Star Trek but hasn’t really seen a return on investment. The draw of Netflix was a variety of content and no commercials.
I seriously have no idea why everyone was stupid enough to make their own version of netflix, and not expect the market to be flooded. The second Disney announced Disney plus, I knew that was the end of streaming and the return of piracy.
The only streaming surface I use is Tubi because they have the most ethical business model, I watch their ads, they show me free movies and shows. They don’t double dip, and as long as they don’t, it will be the only site I don’t use Adblock on
I know that. They’re desperate for hits beyond Star Trek. The original plan was new Star Trek every week all year long. Now it’s no Star Trek for months at a time with one show ending (Discovery) and one animated show shuffled off to Netflix. That leaves Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks, and while they seem to be popular, it doesn’t seem to be translating into subscriptions and they don’t seem to have any other Trek shows in the pipeline.
What else do they have? Reboots. A new Spongebob, a new Frasier, a new Beavis and Butthead. No one is drawn to those. And their one attempt at a big budget sci-fi epic that wasn’t Star Trek, Halo, was a complete flop.
I subscribed to it for Star Trek but I couldn’t justify that any longer because I really wasn’t watching anything else.
CBS would make more money selling those streaming rights.
Right but what will happen is the platforms without ads will now fall before the ones with ads and reinforce the idea that more ads = good for business
This is disappointing to hear
I could hardly stand Kelsey Grammer before I found out that he was a magat, now I want to throw stuff at him
The real question you have to ask is why he supports Trump. Greed or hate?
I respected him as a performer and enjoyed his work. That’s now in the past.
I never liked Cheers or Frasier, but he seemed like an okay actor overall. I mean you wouldn’t have Sideshow Bob without him.
That doesn’t make him less of a shithead though.
He only mostly supports the insurrection and attempted overthrow of our democracy, so it’s cool.
And I just lost all respect for him, along with any desire to ever see him on screen ever again.
Grammer never went full “Kirk Cameron” with his professional career, but he’s always been super right-wing, and the guy has some notable bible thumper and anti-abortion flicks on his IMDB page. He’s done a decent job of keeping his fringy beliefs out of the press.
I disagree with his stand but think it doesn’t make sense to cut him off. Let him explain it, let him dig his own hole, let the ideas be questioned. It’s the BBC not Fox.
They’re not calling for him to be “cancelled”. They’re just not going to view his stuff anymore. Any individual doesn’t need a reason to stop doing something they’ve engaged in willingly. Unless you didn’t mean to reply to the comment you did.
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Guy who was in multiple pro-us army movies is pro Trump. Shocker of the year here.
Anyone can support anyone they like, but it speaks to your character at the very least.
Dude literally led an insurrection to overthrow democracy, wake the fuck up with this nonsense?
His sister was murdered in the most conservative town in Colorado. Maybe conservativism doesn’t work Mr. Grammer?
To them conservatism can never fail. It can only be failed, because you didn’t conservative hard enough. There is no introspection, no critical thinking. Only doubling down. Because otherwise all the suffering would have been for naught.
I know you’re joking, but at the same time I know you’re really not.
Republicans do not believe that they do not make mistakes, they merely believe that admitting a mistake would in itself be a mistake
I have no clue of the backstory. Are those two things related at all?
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Boycott Paramount, they suck anyway
Wow, I’ve never changed my opinion on someone so fast before, that’s insane.
Me too and going cancel my Paramount plus account over it and boycott all his shows and movies.
So the courtroom speach from The Simpsons wasn’t acting.
No truth-handler me :(
