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This post is intereating, but If I wrote the meme I would not mention aliens. It invites comparisons with certain empty-headed New Atheists that have a fixation on aliens. In my experience, some of them whatch every “science” fiction show involving aliens but read little to nothing about real science.
The typical New Atheist is far more motivated by anti-religious hate than love for Science.
Note, I am aware that atheism is much larger than the New Atheism lunatic cult. My dad (died from pancreatic cancer) was effectively an atheist. He simply avoided (and, rarely, criticized) religion, because it lacks evidence and because there are so many competing ones.
O my, I would never get anything done but I’d have so many interesting conversations, where can I sign up?
here. lemmy is already that.
Excuse me, but do you have a moment to talk about ZFS and tall socks? Maybe the benefits of a tiling window manager?
The world would be a better place if anybody knocked on a door for non-exploitative reasons (without an appointment).
Back in my day this is how we’d tweet. Door-to-door, telling a lame joke about cornflakes.
Don’t leave us hanging, what’s the joke?
the aristocrats!
Everyone in this thread is approaching the question from the perspective of the passive resident role, and not the traveling science minstrel role.
Given that I am definitely more inclined toward the latter - which apparently makes me a tiny minority, even in this thread - I feel confident saying that I would have far more to fear from all of you than the reverse.
You may all point and laugh now.
I’d be dead. A serial killer would use it as an excuse to come inside and I’d immediately be an idiot and say “absolutely come on in. I love Venus.”
As I was writing the above sentence, I suddenly had an idea for a story about a Vampire who tries to use religion as a way of being invited over the threshold of strangers homes, and get increasingly frustrated when people tell him to fuck off.
knock, knock
I’m not a serial killer or a vampire, and I will happily discuss Venus with you. We can even do it at a nice, safe distance! I’ll apologize now if that doesn’t advance your fiction, or any erotic fantasies of frustrated vampires you may have.
I really want to build a set-up that can properly observe the planet deep into twilight. I’ve read that twilight is the time when you can observe the almost-legendary “ashen light”. Given recent discoveries around a very narrow atmospheric window that lets you just sort of see the surface, in a super-blurry way, I’m wondering if these two phenomena are related. Given the Trump antipathy to planetary science, and Venus exploration in particular, I would find this pretty satisfying.
… unless you were referring to Aphrodite, and not the planet.
I note that there are very few religious proselytizer killers/ings. Your door-to-door visitors are unlikely to be violent (but quite likely to be after your money and time).
It’s a bad cover because most people will say no and remember your face.
I’d make more friends
I don’t really want anyone to knock on my door (the doormat says “GO AWAY!” for a reason). However, I’m likely to be much more polite to someone talking about science than religion.
I’d probably say “no, thank you” before slamming the door in their face.
Not really, the life on Venus thing was so far from reality that it might as well have been a religious idea
I had a class in college taught by a Catholic priest.
He loved to have people come to his door to talk religion. He’d invite them in, give them tea, and then talk to them about Catholicism until they asked to leave.
They’d get invited in a lot more if they did.
I grew up in a small town and only encountered Jehovah’s Witnesses once in my childhood. That time, they gave their introductory spiel and my response was literally “uhhhhh … ?”
I was a kid and had just gotten in trouble, including some yelling, from my mom who was - at the time - the only other person home. I don’t even remember why. However, in normal circumstances I would have called to her for rescue; this time I wasn’t sure whether I should since she was mad at me. Still, she heard the interaction and came to the door, saving me by saying “we’re not interested, thanks” and closing the door in their faces. Afterwards, she explained in mom terms that she’d always have my back, even if she was mad.
Thats so fucking gross trying to indoctrinate involuntary children. Fuck those monsters.
In this house we do not recognize phosphine as a biomarker! Get the fuck out of my face!
WELL IN MY HOUSE WE DO!
YOUR HOUSE IS A HOUSE OF PSEUDOSCIENCE! IN THE NAME OF FEYNMAN, MAY NONE OF YOUR PAPERS PASS PEER-REVIEW!!!
THAT’S IT I’M GETTING THE STRAP
Relax! Your aura is bright red!
You may be interested in this new research from a few weeks ago! https://www.space.com/astronomy/james-webb-space-telescope/the-search-for-life-on-venus-just-took-another-turn-thanks-to-jwsts-brown-dwarf-discovery
EAT SHIT @[email protected]!
Edit: wait I misread it. SHUT UP I REJECT YOUR SCIENCE FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU
Given the number of people that think the Sun orbits the Earth and that the Moon is never out in the day time, this would be a good idea. It doesn’t even need to be deep. Just random science facts.
As an aside, I want to buy a billboard in town and post science facts.
Cognitive capacity aside, have the latter group of people never seen the moon during the day?
They don’t look at the sky
To be fair, I don’t like anyone to knock on my door and talk about random stuff.
If it was ever not about selling (product, religion, candidate) maybe it wouldn’t be so awful to have your door knocked. I don’t mind if it’s about a lost dog or kid, or maybe someone with baked goods saying hi. But no, it’s always someone trying to get you into their pipeline. Someone who doesn’t see you as a person, but only as a lead.
Fucking people. Get off my porch, lawn—just back all the way out of sight.
It’s worth at least peeking through the peephole first, once I had a couple of kids whose older sibling had flaked out on picking them up and they were trying to find someone who would let them borrow their phone to call for a ride.
Every other time it was Jehovah’s Witnesses, though.
Got a ring, but I don’t even like talking through it. I just look and hope they go away. But sometimes I have to ask.
I’ve had people knock on my door trying to push stuff that I even agree with: fixing climate change, helping the homeless, anti-trump stuff…
And I still want them to GTFO. If someone interrupts my day, I’m not gonna listen to their pitch at all. It has to be something important, and something that I can help with right now.
I was just knocking on some doors to save their rental units from being replaced and them being kicked out. Hopefully that’s a valid reason to door knock.
Somehow no-one ever knocks on my door at a convenient moment.
Like: man, I really want to play some co-op, and nobody is here to play with me.
I’ve legit had this happen with magazine salesmen. They came in and smoked weed and played video games with us.
Well did you buy any magazines
I like when those religious nutjobs come by, I have so much fun with it. I aggressively offer them alcohol (like pour shots and crack beers and put it in front of them) which is usually a hoot with the religious types that go door to door. They usually come in twos, so it’s fun to create personal drama in your head about them and then just declare it openly to them. (I am surprised they let you work so closely with Matt, with you know… The temptations and all😉).
I used to even have props for some gags… But for some reason I haven’t seen them in a year or more. It’s a game of if I can make them uncomfortable enough to abandon the mission… I always feign some interest.
At least for the mormons and jehovah’s witnesses, the point of them going door-to-door isn’t to convert you. It’s to solidify in their minds that the ‘other’ is hateful and vile. Your shenanigans are funny, but just building another wall for another pair of fools for their little prison designed by the people at the top.
Instead of being offensive, I attempt to deprogram or at least place doubt in their minds. They can talk about their religion as long as I can talk about science and morality. Sadly, I can never get them to come back for a second visit (even if they commit to an appointment time).
When they Knock on my door they usually catch me while I am at home doing the dishes/cleaning up my mess of a kitchen or doing a weeks worth of laundary etc. In that case I tell them you have to options:
- a) go away and probably not catch me again
- b) come inside and help me with whatever I am doing at the moment
Let me tell you you’ll never get 2 people helping you with your kitchen this cheap. The last ones stayed for 3 hours after which my kitchen was spotless. Somehow they didn’t want to stick arround for some more discussion and cleaning the bathrooms…Anyways afterwards I offered them a save retreat at my adress if they ever wanted to escape their cult. No regrets, looking forward for the next knock on the door.
Wait. Actually.
This is brilliant. Jees. I hope I have a couple of these guys show up. I need so much help organizing my house it overwhelms everyone I know, but cult members seeking cult members sound like an excellent opportunity if all I have to pay is the wear and tear on my social battery.
Oh man this is really brilliant, I never imagined I could get free labor out of them.
To be honest, I also didn’t expect it to work. Glad it did.
I don’t even hate the conversation that much, I just hate standing in my doorway for a half hour having the convo.
I remember the Summer a few years ago, I was preparing a liver stew. Because of the heat, I was only wearing a rubber apron. While I was listening to Rotting Christ, Behemoth and some other metal, when the doorbell rang. I open, still with my hands, the knife and the apron full of blood. I think they were these Jehovah guys, but they left quickly and to this day I have not seen them again. I don’t know what happened, I couldn’t say more than a Hello
I just tell them I’m not interested politely and then they leave. why are you going so hard?
no need to be a disrespectful ass. even if you hate religion.
Did that for about 5 years, didn’t work. If anything they came even more often.
I don’t mind the conversation for a bit and my comment probably alludes to me being ruder than I actually am. But after a half a hour if they can’t take a hint or even a direct declaration… Then you got to find some other way to get them to leave.
I just gently close the door in that case. after saying no thank you.
Found the inspiration for that movie Heretic.
That convenient moment the 8 of april around 12h32 faded away too quickly.
I’ve worked with phosphine in an industrial setting; anyone who asked about telling me about it out of the blue would be extremely sus.
I’d probably go outside and put lots of distance between me and them.
