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  • but it sounds like they at least require a fairly high bar for gross violations, although this may qualify.

    By the bars they laid out? He already has violated all of them. He clearly meets the standards needed for removal of a community moderator. They said that he needs to have commited gross violations of the TOS but he has and they’ve been documented for months.

    but I would think it’s not an admin’s job to judge a mod as unworthy of running their community unless they do something egregious enough to warrant an instance ban.~~

    He has literally been instance banned from other instances because he violates their TOS. LW won’t apply the same enforcement despite the fact that he violates their own TOS.


  • So in Canada we use different political terms than the Americans do. One of these is usage of the word ‘Government’. In the US, Government applies to the whole general moving structure of the United States. In Canada the word Government applies to the ruling party specifically in much the same way that Americans use the word ‘Administration’. Jordan was not aware of this.

    A user commented that a particular person was not a Member of Government, referring to the fact that they were not in the party that currently forms the Government of Canada. Jordan Lund removed this as ‘Misinformation’, claiming that the particular person was an elected member of parliament so calling them not a member of government was flat out misinformation. Important point to note is this was on the World News community. An American with incomplete information about something removed a comment under the guise of misinformation that was about another country. Personally? This is kind of annoying. But it dropped into rage inducing territory when he repeatedly doubled down.

    The comment removed:

    Unfortunately, this guy isn’t even a member of the government. He’s a backbencher in our third biggest political party. OK enough guy as far as I know, people in the NDP usually are, but he’s basically a nobody. Calling him a “lawmaker” is about as generous as they could get.

    Even through context alone it should have been made clear how the word government was being used but Jordan was either incapable of grasping that or refused to. He was called out on it and doubled down on his stance. Multiple users educated him on the subject but he refused to engage with anything that proved him wrong (this is a continuous problem of his). Months later he said the same thing again. Again, multiple users proved him wrong. Once again, he refused to engage.

    A couple of weeks ago, I made a rather large post that detailed numerous things that he has done. Like a ton. In the comments, someone brought up the Canadian thing again to an admin of LW named MrKaplan. Kaplan said

    […] we have already discussed topics like the Canadian politics one with him in the past, as we also don’t consider it acceptable what he did back then. Source

    3 hours later, Jordan again doubled down.

    They doubled down, with the idea that even though they are elected and can vote, they don’t count as a member of government because they aren’t part of the ruling party. Which is utter and complete nonsense. They are getting a government paycheck, they are a “member of government.” Source

    Small sidebar but the Wikipedia page for the Government of Canada says this:

    Under Canada’s Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, the terms government and Government of Canada refer specifically to the prime minister, Cabinet, and other members of the governing party inside the House of Commons, but typically includes the federal public service and federal departments and agencies when used elsewhere.[7] This differs from the United States, where the executive branch is referred to as an administration and the federal government encompasses executive, legislative, and judicial powers, similar to the Canadian Crown. Source

    In that moment Jordan proved one of two things. Either that the admins had never actually talked about the issue to him or (more likely) that he did not believe that he did anything wrong so he ignored anything that was told to him.

    He does not accept differing information than that of what he believes, he moderates through an American lens and refuses to take the differences of other countries into account and he repeatedly doubles down on an inaccurate retelling of events as well as an inaccurate definition of the term Government inside of Canada. Doubling down even when an admin publicly says he’s wrong.

    This single event alone proves that he is incapable of impartial moderation of /c/World and needs to be immediately removed. Months of this going on and months of this insisting he’s correct while admins publicly say he isn’t. It was this specific inaction by the Admins of Lemmy.world that caused me to move off of the instance. I couldn’t tolerate them willfully accepting American misinformation about Canadian politics being pushed on a WorldNews community. This entire release saying that they’re going to look into things and then decide is, frankly, a joke. He was publicly contradicting something the Admins privately told him and doing the thing they told him not to. They have the ammo they need to from just this one moment stretched over the course of months.

    He won’t listen to them and follow the basic rules they laid out yet they will not remove him while he actively violates the TOS of Lemmy.world. At that point there is no justification for the inaction of Admins. Absolutely none. I grant time needed to review, sure, but it’s been essentially 2 weeks since I made that post public in which they said they were already reviewing his behavior for days. Half of a month is not needed for this decision and I can’t stomach this any longer.




  • Following our instance rules, we have a few cases in which we may remove community moderators from their communities:

    1. Grossly committing a violation of the Terms of Service

    Alright so I looked at those Terms of Service.

    1.1 - Attacks on People? Check. He’s repeatedly gone out of his way to harass people as demonstrated both via his modlog and the litany of comments he’s left on YPTB

    1.2 - Discrimination of Minorities? Check as demonstrated by the fact that he’s been banned from the entirety of blahaj for transphobic behavior.

    3 - System Disruption? Arguable considering he’s permanently ruined any credibility that /c/News and /c/World had and has driven so many users to actively avoid lemmy.world at all possible costs. Myself included now.

    8 - Misinformation? Check. Removing someones post for a lack of understanding is one thing but you said that you (Admins) talked to Jordan about his behavior on the Canadian thing. Meaning that you knew it was wrong and had told him it was wrong. He repeatedly and continually doubles down on that specific thing. That is misinformation. Misinformation that is then being enforced with the abilities of a moderator. Which also then slides into 1.1 - Attacks on People as he’s actively lying and punishing a dude when he did nothing wrong.

    We are still discussing whether we consider his behavior a “gross violation of our ToS”, as there are definitely some arguments to be made in favor of that.

    At this stage there are no valid arguments to be made against it. The evidence is overwhelming and has been piling up for months and months and months and months and months.

    This is a complete no brainer. You have admins of other trusted instances refusing to have anything to do with him. You’ve got whole swaths of users that are outright boycotting Lemmy.world as a whole and I’m not talking about my random dumb ass. I mean for literal years I’ve been asked why I set up on Lemmy.world. This entire experience has not done anything to sway anyones fears but has done a lot to reconfirm them.