cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/36033796

Amid the ongoing shutdown, the HHS secretary wiped out entire offices that investigate disease outbreaks, manage infectious disease responses and collect data.

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    Great, who is going to tell me that kids need to get infected with airborne AIDS in order to protect the rich now?

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        it must be because in the case of RFK Jr he wouldn’t really care about race; he’d just want anyone with proper medical education gone so he wouldn’t have to hear the phrase “that’s the biggest crock of shit I’ve heard” every day.

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        It’s 30% satire. Some of the white ones were terrible Lefties that have been to a college and so they didn’t re-hire ALL of them.

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    Everyday these fucking assholes. That’s why I stopped speculating what else fucking damage they would do – stop giving the bastards ideas.

    They need to be stopped completely.

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      I’ve been saying this for many many years now. Republicans are simply too far right wing to engage in anything but total annihilation with. They’ve gotta go. I want to put them to work rebuilding society; they need to physically build public hospitals, colleges, parks, infrastructure, etc.

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    RFK is on track to have one of the highest kill counts for a powerful US figure in the first quarter of the 21st century. That is an intimidating sentence and yet it seems to be undeniably true, I don’t see how we can swerve from the path of mass amounts of unnecessary death in the US from disease. Shame on us.

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    Another reason not to visit the US. They can’t prevent disease and aren’t even trying. All they want is your money.

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    Time for the sane states to create a “Hub of Pathological Management and Deterence” as a replacement lol. Travelers from non-member states get quarrantined.

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      I’m just sitting waiting for it to either kill me or fail trying. And all I can do in the meantime is try to live life pretending like it’s not on a time limit

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    I remember the time when every weekend there was good news like NASA launching a new space station component on the space shuttle. They did have bad news like the shuttle blowing up and the NASDAQ dropping 10 points on the same day. But usually news had puppies being adopted and new vaccines or a new animal discovered.

    Now its all about what I can’t do anymore starting this week. Like bikes are not allowed anymore. Or you can’t kiss in public or below the chin. Can’t wear colored shirts or shorts but pants may still be blue. If you’re lucky you could be illegal this week too!

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      As a kid I remember Tom Brokaw droning on about the collapsed soviet union and eventually Kuwait but all that bad news was offshore, domestic news was all about how great 3Q was going to be and how the malls and airports would be swamped for Christmas, great movies in theaters, optimism. I had no idea it was the last time I’d experience it.

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    9% of the remaining staff.
    Another 4,000 government employees were fired across other vital programs.

    We are still leas than a year into this 4 years presidency.

    There isnt just gonna be a fixing this. The US is going to have to take decades to rebuild itself from scratch whenever this fascist agenda ends.

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      4 years presidency.

      So that’s not inherently guaranteed. The constitution can be amended - hell, term limits themselves come from an amendment, not the original text. I believe there’s at least one supreme court justice who doesn’t even believe in amendments - if it wasn’t in the original text of the constitution, it doesn’t count.

      Luckily POTUS himself can’t legally suspend or delay elections. But I’m pretty sure a sympathetic congress can.

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    Other countries should just stop tourists from the USA from entering - the damn place is a biohazard at this point.

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      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A~%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025

      ONLY 4 COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT MEETING THE TWO DOSE VACCINATION COVERAGE FOR MEASLES.

      Sounds like the damn place is a biohazard at this point, and we need to stop tourists from the EU from entering other countries like Alaknar advises.

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        That’s mainly because until very recent craziness (mainly US imported) Measles was approaching eradication and the vaccination regime was lightened because of that. Now it will have to be upped again, which is already happening.
        This whataboutism works as a gotcha in a random comment, but EU reality isn’t that bleak yet

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          It isn’t whataboutism. It’s facts and data. It’s in response to the the ridiculous low-IQ statements from the OP claiming that the US is a biohazard now because the fascists in charge fired people at the CDC.

          Read the article I linked. There are plenty of cases of measles in the European Union, along with low vaccination coverage, and they haven’t fired anyone at their CDC. Should we be knee-jerk calling to restrict travel to and from the EU?

          But I love how you think the EU measles and vaccination issue is a US import, instead of what it really is.

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        Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?

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          Evidently, the CDC in the EU doesn’t exist, if only 4 countries are properly vaccinated for measles. Get your house in order, genius.

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            The CDC/ECDC’s job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.

            The US just lost that capability

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      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A~%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025

      Oh my god, look at all the measles pouring out of European Union countries! 32,265! Alaknar, what is going on with you guys in the European Union don’t you believe in vaccinations and herd immunity??!

      The EU is a BIOHAZARD at this point!

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        Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?

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          And by the way, Sir Genius, the CDC doesn’t manufacture Measles vaccinations.

          So people in America who are intelligent and understand how vaccinations work will continue to get them. But seriously, you need to worry less about the US and start focusing on your own vaccination problems in the EU, according to this, and using YOUR LOGIC, you guys are a biohazard

          https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A~%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025

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            The CDC/ECDC’s job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.

            The US just lost that capability

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          With those huge numbers, do they even have the equivalent of a CDC? How useless must the EU equivalent CDC must be if it is THAT INEFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING MEASLES.

          Weren’t you the one teaching me about herd immunity and asymptomatic carriers? It sounds like the EU needs to be quarantined immediately

          Those numbers are worse than the country you are complaining about, why aren’t you screaming to quarantine the EU? Very telling.

          Did you even read the article?? ONLY 4 COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT COVERAGE FOR BOTH VACCINATION DOSES! There goes your guys herd immunity, time to revoke your travel privileges.

          However, vaccination levels in the EU/EEA still fall short of this target, with estimates from 2023 showing that only four countries (Hungary, Malta, Portugal and Slovakia) report such coverage for both doses.

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            With those huge numbers, do they even have the equivalent of a CDC? How useless must the EU equivalent CDC must be if it is THAT INEFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING MEASLES.

            One of the jobs of CDC and ECDC is to monitor and report the situation. There are countries with shitty vaccination programs (like Romania) or with strong anti-vax movements (like the US), and it’s the job of organisations like CDC/ECDC to monitor the spread of viruses and advise preventative measures if things get out of control.

            Without the CDC, we no longer know how viruses spread in the US which means everybody could be a carrier. THAT is the problem we’re discussing - something that would have been obvious to you, had you pulled your head out of your arse, Mr Genius.

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      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A~%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025

      Between 1 February 2024 and 31 January 2025, a total of 32 265 people were diagnosed with measles in the European Union. During this period, Romania (27 568), Italy (1 097), Germany (637), Belgium (551) and Austria (542) reported the highest number of cases across the EU/EEA.

      It’s time we stopped these diseased EU tourists from traveling and spreading the measles to all other countries!! Just like Alaknar suggests!!

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        Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?

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          Remind me again, how ineffective is the EU CDC in preventing measles and why should we allow you biohazards to travel outside of your borders?

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            It’s job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.

            The US just lost that capability.

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      Because you were too ignorant to clock my original link or understand what I was saying, here it is again

      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A~%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025

      Between 1 February 2024 and 31 January 2025, a total of 32 265 people were diagnosed with measles. During this period, Romania (27 568), Italy (1 097), Germany (637), Belgium (551) and Austria (542) reported the highest number of cases across the EU/EEA.

      ITS TIME WE LOCK DOWN THE EU AND PREVENT YOU FILTHY SWINE FROM TRAVELING TO OTHER COUNTRIES!!

      Except I’m not an asshole like you.

      P.S. can I say how embarrassing those numbers must be for you? You were so proud of your ‘spotless’ EU measles record…

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        Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?

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          Look how petty you are, downvoting each comment I make because you can’t answer it with logic or reason. How sad it must be to live in your head.

          Well, buddy, what you are basically saying is, if the EU are putting up those crappy measles numbers without a CDC, I guess that means America is just becoming MORE LIKE YOU GUYS.

          So what’s your effin’ problem mate? You mad at the US for becoming more like the EU, is that your angle now? Haha your logic is just… so brilliant

          Haha omg, look at you madly logging into other accounts to upvote your comments and downvote mine! That must be so much work for you, vs mounting an actual argument!

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      You think that the people rooting for this are world travelers? What’s really strange is I just did an Uber ride for a couple from the Netherlands that came to visit center of nowhere.

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        You are good people YiddishMcSquidish. Keep up the fight against ignorance. I know it ain’t easy in this sea of mediocrity.

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        You think that the people rooting for this are world travelers?

        I don’t care if the guy spreading measles voted D or R. I care that he’s spreading measles.

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          Democrats still believe in science and get their family vaccinated. But nice attempt to BOTH SIDES!!! the issue, cretin.

          Or maybe you just don’t understand how disease and infection works? Highly likely.

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            Dude is using multiple accounts to artificially get some credits (votes)

            Don’t respond to them and you should block them.

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              It was hilarious watching him do it in real time, knowing what a waste of time it was for him to have to keep logging in and out of multiple accounts.

              I love it when people like that prove what little character they truly have, that they put that much wasted effort into making their petty hate against other people, countries and cultures look more popular than it is.

              People who believe in truth and science should always unite together against the real evil in society: hate and ignorance

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            Wow, you sure have a short fuse, buddy. Shame your aim is all over the place.

            Now read this and this, then come back and tell me:

            1. how Democrats’ belief in science helps them when the whole country becomes infested, and
            2. you’re sorry for calling me names for completely failing to understand what I wrote.
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              Thanks for proving with your links about herd immunity and asymptomatic carriers that you have no real idea how disease and infection works. You are literally saying you think vaccinated people visiting a place with vaccinated people will create a pandemic. I guess you don’t believe vaccinations really work?

              You’re a genius!

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                FFS, mate…

                Vaccinated people aren’t 100% immune. Vaccinated people CAN be the transfer vessel for viruses. AND not everybody CAN get vaccinated.

                Like, if you took your head out of your arse for one minute to read what I’m actually writing, you’d realise that you’re barking up the wrong tree.

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                  Bruh. Did I say vaccinated people are 100% immune? Nope! But it’s a beautiful world of straw you live in! Hey, when there is a measles outbreak, do you think it’s going to run rampant in communities where the majority of people vaccinate their children, or is it going to run rampant in the communities where people don’t vaccinate at all? Do you know why that is, because that’s how fricken vaccines work. Before I get a flu vaccine, do I ask myself, GARSH, DID EVERYONE GET A FLU VACCINE I SURE HOPE SO!!

                  Why do you think that is, hm? Gosh, that’s right, because that is what vaccinations do! For some stupid reason you wanted to make it into some political, anti-Democrats, anti-US thing to punish us all for a group of ignorant Republicans. Here’s a simple solution, if you are a country worried about measles: require people traveling to your country to be vaccinated.

                  Do you even know the top 10 countries with measles outbreaks? Did you know Yemen leads the list? Did you know India, Pakistan, Russia, Canada and Mexico are on the list? You better start calling your government and demanding to restrict your borders! Idiot.

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      Hey, you’re a genius! Let’s look at a list of all countries with measles outbreaks and restrict all their citizens from travel!

      Oh no, there is sub-optimal measles vaccination coverage across the EU/EEA! Oh no, Yemen, India, Pakistan, the Russian Federation, Canada, Mexico!

      I don’t know what country you live in, Mr. Genius, but for your sake I hope it’s North Korea so you can be isolated from the rest of civilization.

      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/measles-rise-again-europe-time-check-your-vaccination-status#%3A~%3Atext=Data+on+measles+cases+in%2Cduring+the+spring+of+2025.

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        Mr Genius, North Korea and russia are already isolated…

        And neither Yemen nor India, Pakistan or Mexico have effectively “free entry” to Europe.

        As for the US - they have almost free entry AND they just killed the CDC. Which means we won’t know how many cases they have and how bad the situation will be in a year or two.

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          Haha, holy crap you’re a dim bulb!

          1. You completely ignore my lead and link… THE EUROPEAN UNION is experiencing a resurgence of measles and is undervaccinated. Do you realize how stupid this makes your entire argument? Nobody can be that dimwitted, can they?

          2. NORTH KOREA wasn’t on my list! I was saying I hope you lived there exactly because it is isolated!

          Bruh, you lack even basic reading comprehension skills. I don’t even know how you manage.

          Also, I am the one calling you a genius. Can’t you even come up with your own shtick?

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            Are you high, Mr Genius?

            Did you miss the fact that everything we’re talking about here is in the context of Trump closing down the CDC?

            Do you know what the CDC does?

            Also, I am the one calling you a genius. Can’t you even come up with your own shtick?

            Nah, Mr Genius, you didn’t call dibbs! Rookie mistake!

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    “This administration only knows how to break things. They have made America at risk for outbreaks and attacks by nefarious players. People should be scared.”

    No, they should be mad. Mad as hell that this government is dismantling all the safe-guards that keep them safe.

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      This is a really good point.
      Republicans sell to their base that they need to always be on edge, scared of a threat that doesnt really exist so they think they are good at defending themselves and their families from threats.
      But this is inviting real ones. Legitimate threats and dangers to our lives that they will not be prepared to defend against the same way they can against a young person wearing clothes they think dont match their gender stereotype.

      They will view this as a positive that their protections are being taken away for them to have to protect themselves and it will kill people who thank the abusers for the privilege.