Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed for the first time that Israel delivered Patriot air defense systems to Kyiv, adding two more batteries will arrive in the fall after months of speculation and denials
This is not a “poisoned gift”. I would argue it’s inappropriate to use the term in this context.
We don’t have any other option. Considering the situation it would be absurd to not accept the Patriot systems. Hopefully the PAC-2’s will be upgraded by the Americans to newer variants to better deal will “regular” ballistic missiles and the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missiles.
Anyone taking a principled stance against genocide will. Sorry, but Ukraine needs to find another way than to become indebted to a fascist regime like Israel.
Honestly, taking arms from Israel, while it kind of helps Israel’s reputation, still means less equipment doing genocide.
A win in my book. Now, if only Ukraine took 50 more, the Flotilla broke through and some sane country got Netanyahu to the ICJ, the world would be a better place.
I considered this, and it kind of makes sense. But, unfortunately Israel has an effectively limitless arsenal because of US patronage. So, I don’t think it really affects their project.
They are actively under fire from fascists, and the rest of the world is failing to step up and help. They need what they can get.
This is extremely cursed and it will definitely have strings attached that no one wants, but in a question of survival vs not, I don’t blame them one bit. This is a decision centered around “we have to survive today to solve this problem tomorrow”.
Israel is trying to whitewash their genocide by “supporting” the conflict that would bring in the most good PR, which happens to be the Russia-Ukraine war.
It says little about Ukraine, a bit more about Israel, but a lot about public conscience - people are rising up against Israeli genocide, and Israel feels the need to do something to shift the media focus.
[1] is not valid. Anyone with modicum of critical thinking can understand the context.
[2] Do you have any sources (preferably in Ukrainian) on this? You’re implying Zelenskyy is being manipulated, this is a big claim, what is the context? Zelenskyy was planning to call Netanyahu a dictator in a public manner before they provided the Patriot system? And now he changed his mind?
[3] Conspiracy theory that doesn’t even make logical sense. What are they planning to blackmail Zelenskyy for?
And what does what your wrote have to do with “Ukrainians supporting their war crimes”. Your points are just random, extremely low effort musings and conspiracy theories.
This is not a “poisoned gift”. I would argue it’s inappropriate to use the term in this context.
We don’t have any other option. Considering the situation it would be absurd to not accept the Patriot systems. Hopefully the PAC-2’s will be upgraded by the Americans to newer variants to better deal will “regular” ballistic missiles and the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missiles.
For real, who can judge them for this
Anyone taking a principled stance against genocide will. Sorry, but Ukraine needs to find another way than to become indebted to a fascist regime like Israel.
They’re not becoming indebted. It’s part of US Israel talks. The system is 30 years old, they need to replace it regardless.
Sending it to Ukraine is preferable than sending it to a landfill.
Honestly, taking arms from Israel, while it kind of helps Israel’s reputation, still means less equipment doing genocide.
A win in my book. Now, if only Ukraine took 50 more, the Flotilla broke through and some sane country got Netanyahu to the ICJ, the world would be a better place.
I considered this, and it kind of makes sense. But, unfortunately Israel has an effectively limitless arsenal because of US patronage. So, I don’t think it really affects their project.
They are actively under fire from fascists, and the rest of the world is failing to step up and help. They need what they can get.
This is extremely cursed and it will definitely have strings attached that no one wants, but in a question of survival vs not, I don’t blame them one bit. This is a decision centered around “we have to survive today to solve this problem tomorrow”.
Yes, that’s why it’s potentially poison. Ukraine had no other option than to take it. No one will blame them.
I still don’t see how transfer of Patriot systems from Israel is akin to taking a poisoned gift. In context of the idiom, this doesn’t make sense.
They are just buying Ukranian support for their warcrimes. Damned if you don’t, damned if you do.
What do you mean by “Ukrainian support for their war crimes”? Be clear and specific.
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Israel is trying to whitewash their genocide by “supporting” the conflict that would bring in the most good PR, which happens to be the Russia-Ukraine war.
It says little about Ukraine, a bit more about Israel, but a lot about public conscience - people are rising up against Israeli genocide, and Israel feels the need to do something to shift the media focus.
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[1] is not valid. Anyone with modicum of critical thinking can understand the context. [2] Do you have any sources (preferably in Ukrainian) on this? You’re implying Zelenskyy is being manipulated, this is a big claim, what is the context? Zelenskyy was planning to call Netanyahu a dictator in a public manner before they provided the Patriot system? And now he changed his mind? [3] Conspiracy theory that doesn’t even make logical sense. What are they planning to blackmail Zelenskyy for?
And what does what your wrote have to do with “Ukrainians supporting their war crimes”. Your points are just random, extremely low effort musings and conspiracy theories.
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