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    The British, French, Belgians, polish, soviets, etc were all just hate-fueled murderers! If they didn’t fight back, everything would have been fine and nobody would have had to die! Well… Maybe a few…

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    8 hours ago

    There is zero evidence this is a leftwing person who killed Charlie Kirk.

    Let me repeat for all of us.

    There is zero evidence this is a leftwing person who killed Charlie Kirk.

    If it turns out the shooter was a leftwing person, we can have a discussion but until then the framing is problematically pre-emptive.

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        7 hours ago

        Everyone keeps wasting their energy like fascism deserves logic, or is based on logic, instead of the blatantly narcissistic mental illness it is.

        Everything fascists say and do is bad faith.

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          While true, calling it out helps other people see they’re not alone in thinking the actions seem insane.

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      I’ve seen a couple reports that the ammo they found had anti-fascist and transgender inscribed on them.

      If it’s true, that’s not definitive evidence of course, but it wouldn’t be zero evidence either.

      It also feels a little too convenient to me after the Luigi thing. It could just be sort of a copycat, or it could be a right wing accelerationist trying to paint that picture.

      And I fucking hate that at this point I don’t know which of those two options is more likely.

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      8 hours ago

      If it is a left wing person that doesn’t mean they are hate mongering either though, if it’s a left wing person, who killed kirk due to him being a fascist, then, it’s as simple as that

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      I agree, but let me steelman their argument a little bit: they aren’t necessarily saying a leftwing person killed Kirk, they could be pointing out how many leftwingers are celebrating Kirk’s death.

      And I’ll counter that argument with, it’s not automatically immoral to celebrate some deaths. Like, most people celebrated when Hitler died.

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    It’s the right who are mongering hate, the left just hates those who are hate-able. It’s not “hate-mongering” to hate Adolf Hitler, or to hate a serial killer, or a dictator, or someone who’s a piece of shit. That’s called being human.

    To be a hate-monger, you would have to lie, to manipulate the narrative, and to propagandize with the intention to drive hate. I don’t think the left is doing that.

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    Did they complain when trump voters assassinated actual sitting Dem politicians and theirfamily members a few months ago?

    If not, they can go fuck right off. Because they’re obviously lying.

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    7 hours ago

    Maybe the Koch family didn’t want to pay him anymore.

    I think the Koch family killed him.

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      7 hours ago

      Charlie was always a paid mouth piece. Whatever talking points he was told to spew, he would spew.

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        Professional disingenuous political debater and grifter. He did speak out in favor of releasing the Epstein files so it could be the same person that also killed Epstein.