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    They spent a lot of money and political capital to train their AI just for it to get leaked back to the masses.

    If only every AI company scraping the internet would have their model be given back to the people. It’s the minimum they could do.

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    Courts will say “no, that’s not what we meant by that” and will slap you silly.

    AI companies aren’t on the side of copyright reform or abolition, they just want an exception for themselves so they can keep doing whatever they’re doing now. (And they also want more IP laws to cover the current grey areas, so they can stop pretending to give a damn about open models)

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        Yeah, well, Law and Ethics are two separate things which - very rarely these days - seem to cross each other. This is known.

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    Well, someone had to say it, so here I go:

    inhales

    If piracy isnt owning, then buying isn’t stealing?

    wait i messed it up

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    True but it is only legal if you are a multi billion dollar company that could have paid for it, but didn’t choose so.

    If you can’t afford it you should rot in Guantanamo for ever!

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    I don’t know if it’s different in the US, but here the downloading isn’t punished, it’s the sharing that gets you in trouble.

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      Our government allows ludicrous control to rights holders. I don’t own any copies of movies, for example, even discs. Disney owns the physical discs. I just have them in my home. I own the right to play the discs in certain ways. I’ll bet policies will be updated to clarify that Disney doesn’t approve of, “training AI”.

      But it’s the same here. If you aren’t actively doing anything that upsets rights holders, they’ll leave you alone.

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            I don’t think you’re correct about them owning the disk, unless you mean in the sense there are things you believe you should be able to do that you aren’t. You can own a book, but it doesn’t mean you hold the copyright.

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      All you need to do is print it, forge the signatures and input it in the national registry. Should be doable.

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      Having the material doesn’t mean you know it unfortunately. You could probably give yourself a PhD level of education yourself with resources publicly available, but you would need to be able to learn on your own, and putting together the curriculum would be a problem since you are starting as a novice at whatever subject it is.

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          Totally, when I want to learn a new subject in my field I will go find a uni course with a public curriculum and use that to help my studies. It also lets you find books that have ostensibly accurate information

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        So then I guess I can learn the song, write down the notes from memory, and play that cover. It’s all gone through a neural network and so it’s all fine, right?

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          So, I memorized all the binary digits in the waveform of a Metallica song and wrote it down from memory.

          Unfortunately I’ve got a bad memory so I had to do them one digit at a time, but technically I didn’t copy anything, I only wrote down my own memories, right? Also, my handwriting is worse than my doctor’s so I chose to write it on a computer.

          The funniest thing happened when I accidentally opened this text file in Winamp. It almost sounded like music, except that the drums were played like shit.