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    Mamdani is a great candidate and he only seems to get shallow or dishonest criticism. When he talks policy it’s straight forward, sensible and makes economic sense, but his critics talk about him like he’s chairman Mao. Totally out of proportion and probably has a lot to do with corporate finance in politics and the DNC specifically.

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      has a lot to do with corporate finance in politics and the DNC specifically.

      Whose bread I eat: his song I sing. ~ German Proverb

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      Oh no, it’s still there. It will be trotted out the next time progressives get angry at another corporate candidate.

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        I hope so because we absolutely cannot afford to lose any more ground to the christofascist dictatorship.

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          There’s no question that we should always vote against the most right wing candidate. No reasonable person disagrees with this.

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    Breaking News: Jefferies a former corporate lawyer and current corporate stooge, doesn’t like the idea of socialism! How fucking surprising…

    If America wants a chance to avoid violent revolution, they really need to kick out any Democrat who has the stink of Thirdway politics about them.

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      Liberals are Zionists, and things won’t improve until the left like you realize it. Democrats are not your friends, they say what they need to get your votes, but they like Jeffries and the agree with him. Your petitions’ numbers reflect that.

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        USSR supported the creation of Israel. And the first government of Israel was democratic socialist. The country used to be known to be quite left until about the late 1980s.

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            Not sure what you mean.

            The repeated sneak invasions by Arab countries, the last being the Yom Kippur War, made the left, in the eyes of voters, is insufficient in protecting Israel. It helped paved way for the Israeli right to come to power. After all, Bibi’s administration is all about occupying the frontiers “to protect” Israel; same excuse really that any settler societies have provided to commit atrocities.

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              The fact is that the right has gotten strongerthe more stable their relationships got with other nations which is the opposite of what you would expect.

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          The country was founded as a colonial ethno supremacist project and its founders said their biggest allies will be the antisemites on the premise that they will rid their countries of undesirable Jews.

          There was never any form of democracy in Israel, there can’t be. It’s built on the subjugation and erasure of the indigenous population which has and continues to outnumber them. Palestinians have never had equal rights, and most of us are spread across the world because we never got our right of return granted.

          That’s not democracy. You’re spreading a bullshit narrative.

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            You can have racist democracies so long as you deny citizenship based on race. The USA has been a democratic republic since the beginning despite having restricted the vote along racial, gender, and at one point wealth.

            Israel is a flawed democracy.

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            No one wasn’t arguing that Israel is a democracy.

            I understand you have personal stake on the subject and rest assured most people support Palestine, but realise you are being extremely passionate and making straw man and saying more bollocks.

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              Israel was democratic socialist

              No one wasn’t arguing that Israel is a democracy.

              Are you sure?

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                The party that ruled in Israel was democratic socialist.

                I don’t know what is with downvotes for stating facts. Either people don’t know what democratic socialism is, or socialists probably want to forget that bit of history that Israel used to be left and don’t want to be associated with it.

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        Zionism transcends political platforms. It’s a whole societal problem. I also don’t think it would be too hard to find a socialist Zionist.

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    The Dems really are showing their colors as the corporate-backed weasels that they are, and then wonder why their voters are sick of their shit.

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    When liberals tell me, a trans person, that I need to vote for militant transphobe Gavin Newsom after he’s handed the 2028 Democratic primary victory, I’m going to tell them to shove it up their ass.

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        Not my problem. You advocate taking my rights away, you don’t get my vote. What kind of arrogant son-of-a-bitch would think they’re entitled the votes of those whose rights they are dismantling? The sheer hubris of that is despicable.

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            I’m focusing my efforts on helping people in my own community, the people folks like Newsom and yourself are leaving for dead. I’m quite involved in political and activist circles. But I will be damned if I vote for someone that wants to take away my rights.

            If you don’t have any red lines, you’re no different than the literal historical Nazis. They also thought they were doing what they did for the greater good. The road to Hell is paved with the lesser of two evils. You have to have some standards, some lines that cannot be crossed. Otherwise there is no end to what evil you will endorse. You’ll find yourself working as a concentration camp guard, after somehow convincing yourself you’re taking the less evil path. After all, who better to be a concentration camp guard than yourself? You’re not hateful yourself, better you than an actual militant racist, right? Why shouldn’t you work as a camp guard? It’s for the greater good.

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            This is your strategy? Vote for us or your life will be hell?

            Vote for us, we won’t do anything for you, but surely you don’t want your life ruined otherwise, right?

            Good job.

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      There’s no nice way to say this, so mods delete if necessary. It’s an election about numbers and progressives will now have to be recognized after the last loss and the success of Mamdani. That is some progress. But the issues of trans people will not be a deciding factor due to the ratio. I hope you get all the care and rights you deserve, but this doesn’t sway the vote against literal dictatorship.

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        Trans people themselves are few. People who care about trans rights are not.

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          Care enough to change their profile picture or care enough to do something?

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      All I’m going to say is, in the general election, don’t do what many protestors of the war in Gaza did because that did become a deciding factor in giving Trump Michigan.

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        This is a flawed understanding. Many of the Arab voters in Michigan were not solid Democrats to begin with. Unlike the racist notion that brown skin means Democratic votes, the people inside that skin have a range of views, just like any human. Just pointing at the other side and saying it’s worse fails when voters didn’t think the other side is worse. The party has to win their votes, and aiding the war machine massacring their relatives is for some reason a poor way to do that.

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        Anti occupation and genocide people didn’t make Harris lose , dems and Harris incompetency and the two party system made trump win

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          In fighting is why Trump won and is why the left will never accomplish anything. I hope Mamdani wins and he is the catalyst to reshaping the Democrat party so they actually will put up a real progressive like Bernie and not someone who is anti trans. However, letting the Republicans rat fuck our country another 4 years isn’t something I’m going to support in 2028.

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            If you were living in 1930s Germany, you would have signed up to be a member of the Nazi party. Don’t kid yourself, you personally absolutely would have done it. Maybe you wouldn’t have been one of those actually enlisting in the SS. But you absolutely would have been one of those that joined the Nazi party to keep their job. Do you have any idea how many regular Germans did that, just to keep their ordinary civilian jobs? They convinced themselves that it was for the greater good. After all, let’s say you’re a judge or college professor. If you don’t join the Nazi party, then an actual militant Nazi might get your job instead. Wouldn’t it be better to just join the Nazi party, keep your job, and just try not to do anything too evil in your role? Joining the Nazi party is the lesser of two evils!

            When you have no red lines, there is no limit to how deep into Hell you will fall.

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              Comparing me to Nazis isn’t helping your argument nor is it a good analogy. At this point, I doubt we will even have free or fair elections again. If it comes to a Civil War 2, then I’ll lay my life on the line to protect people like you from fascism. I am not afraid to fight for a better future.

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      How is Newsom transphobic? Aside from his stance on trans athletes, I’ve never really heard anything on him to suggest otherwise, quite the opposite honestly.

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        This isn’t about sports and it never was. Turns out when you’re willing to give in to one aspect of unscientific bigotry (the trans sports moral panic), you’ll be willing to give into others. And yes, opposing trans athletes in sports is fundamentally transphobic. Notice you never see transphobes like Newsom proposing narrowly targeted regulations that only address sports where some large and clear advantage has been proven. You never see transphobes like Newsom proposing that trans athletes in individual sports be given some handicap that would cancel out an advantage they’ve been scientifically proven to have. Instead it’s all bigoted blanket bans that are no different from bans that used to exclude black people from whites-only leagues. They never start from a position of fairness and compassion and try to intervene as little as necessary. It’s all about just keeping the filthy trannies out of polite society. These bans prohibit trans women from women’s gymnastics, for fuck’s sake. So yes, if you support blanket trans sports bans, you are a transphobic bigot. I’m sorry, but you can’t just hand waive it away with, “well aside from this example of unambiguous bigotry, I don’t see any bigotry here.” You might as well be saying, “well aside from this person being a registered member of the KKK, I don’t see any evidence that this person is racist.”

        https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/newsoms-bizarre-interview-with-maga

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          It’s unscientific that AMAB individuals are stronger than AFAB individuals?

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          I wonder if you’ll continue to hold this stance after Trump starts putting trans people into concentration camps.

          It’ll be Democrats, or a continuation and escalation of what’s happening now. If we have a fair election at all.

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            There is an easy solution to this. DON’T NOMINATE NEWSOME. Transphobia isn’t an inherent stance for the liberal party. We can just nominate a candidate that doesn’t proactively shit on civil rights to, for some reason, court conservatives who are never going to vote for us.

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    Establishment Dems simply want to co-parent America with reactionaries. There is no vision, only donors. When MAGA is over, going back to this is not going to be acceptable.

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    Mamdani is a populist and is basically a left wing Trump.

    People are unhappy and easily manipulated into supporting someone that just says the popular internet things. There’s also the assumption that he hates the same ethnic group that’s it’s popular for his base to hate. See the other comments in this thread saying Hakeem Jeffries not endorsing Mamdani is probably something to do with the Jews.

    There were many Republicans that were “never Trumpers” and refused to endorse him. A few even stuck with it. We know what can happen when someone’s support is based around policies based on internet memes mixed with racist conspiracy theories.

    The question is whether Mamdani is a true believer or just saying the things he does to get elected. If he’s a true believer and actually implements the half baked internet meme based policies, it will be a disaster. Much like how Trump’s dumbass policies are a disaster.

    Wouldn’t be a good political move to endorse a politician that winds up creating a mess of things.

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      You’ve gone out of your fucking mind to compare Mamdani to Trump. Lots of people are convinced Trump is the literal antichrist, for good reason. Trump is a murdering psycopath who increases taxes on the poor and decreases them for the rich. Trump is waging a war on minorities to provide labor to the prison industry. Trump is offering USA resources to Russia in exchange for taking slightly less of Ukraine, which the Ukrainians have not and will not agree with.

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      Yeah, I guess we should just keep electing the same corrupt losers who promise nothing, and do less.

      Zohran is offering real changes, when everybody else seems to be perfectly comfortable with business as usual in MAGA Nazi America. Maybe they’ll work, maybe they won’t, and more likely it will be a mix of the two, but at least he wants to try something different than the usual losing strategies.

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        Trump offered real change. That wasn’t a good thing. Turns out, your changes need to be good

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          And that’s why Mamdani won, he wasn’t promising vague platitudes. He was promising very specific actions that are entirely within the power of the mayor’s office to enact. A lot of his agenda will simply be signing legislation passed by the City Council that Mayor Adams vetoed. He convinced people to vote for him because he not only had a ideas, but a very specific and tangible plan on how to achieve them. And Mamdani’s changes are good.

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      You’re right. They’re both the same so I will protest by not voting. That will show them I mean business…wait I’ve heard this before.

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      Mamdani is not Trump by any standard. Mamdani seems to actually understand how to govern.

      His stupidest policies will not be taken up by the city council eg no one is getting$30/hr for minimum wage because most could not afford to pay that

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        At current NYC prices, businesses could afford to pay decent wages to their employees, except every business is hamstring by ridiculous commercial rent.

        Almost every block used to have its own pizza joint, bakery, and deli. Then rent went up, and they all combined into one. Then rent went higher, and they finally all went out of business.

        The primary problem with the NYC economy is rent. If rent could be regulated properly, and greedy landlords could be corralled, living and working, and especially operating a business in NYC, would increase spectacularly.

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          Landlords are always greedy. The issue is when there’s not enough supply the prices increase.