It’s another move to protect against AI scraping.
  • phantomwise@lemmy.mlEnglish
    15·
    3 hours ago

    Nice of them to protect their (users’) content from AI scrapping. So that they can charge AI companies for it instead.

    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      52·
      2 hours ago

      They aren’t doing that. They are protecting content from being scraped for free. Reddit is perfectly happy to charge for AI access to user-generated content.

  • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    3 hours ago

    When reddit has mutated a few more times. They start erasing stuff themselves. It will be lost to time and that fills me with hope.

    • General_Effort@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      14·
      4 hours ago

      Technologically no. Reddit sends out the data to 10s of millions of users as part of their normal operations. They need to try to block those who collect that data for the IA. Reddit has the very short end of the stick.

      The problem is that evading such counter-measures may be criminal in the US. Obviously, EU laws are much harsher.

  • ozoned@piefed.socialEnglish
    211·
    6 hours ago

    Good plan. Keep locking down your big tech platforms, and we’ll all be over here letting folks know where they can find freedom.

    • aquovie@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      6·
      3 hours ago

      Careful. Lemmy is too small to draw the attention of sophisticated, persistent abuse. As a company, Reddit has struggled with revenue and we’ve all seen those struggles quite publicly. Lemmy instances with those same challenges would probably just fold and close up.

      Federated networks give you freedom but the potential for abuse is proportional to that freedom while at the same time, federation is far more expensive taken as a whole.

      • girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        30 minutes ago

        I’m sure it would persist even after an event of malicious activity. It may just turn out like email with servers needing to be added to an allowlist at worst and more moderation. I think scalability might be the limiting factor at some point though and as a result we could end up with several disconnected islands of server clusters instead of globally meshed servers.

    • yarr@feddit.nlEnglish
      71·
      3 hours ago

      Or… let them stay on Reddit. I like lemmy much better, and it’s possibly due to the people that are not present and the lack of commercial interest.

      • Zombie-Mantis@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        56 minutes ago

        Just make your own invite-only server if you’re so worried about it. Digital freedom should be for everyone, not just a few antisocial nerds.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    65·
    10 hours ago

    It’s another move to protect against AI scraping that isn’t paying them for access.

    • sqgl@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      8 minutes ago

      Weren’t Reddit comparing a couple of years ago that too many AI bots crawls were stressing their servers.

      Doesn’t the internet archive relieve that stress?

  • conorab@lemmy.conorab.comEnglish
    179·
    14 hours ago

    As somebody who often ends up using Reddit like Stackoverflow and in some cases needing the Internet Archive (IA) to find the original post after it’s been deleted or garbled, I think this is a wakeup call for those go to Reddit both to get technical help and to post it. More than ever, Reddit is becoming an unreliable place to find answers for old obscure issues and if they are going to lockout places like the IA then I think it’s time people stopped contributing their solutions to Reddit.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      291·
      9 hours ago

      yup. continuing to feed them traffic after their repeated attacks on the userbase is just sad. stop using them. yeah it sucks the info is gone, but acting like they’ll wake up and change is absurd.

    • cashsky@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      611·
      11 hours ago

      Searching anywhere in general is getting shittier and shittier by day. Web searches are riddled with hallucinated AI generated garbage pages. Finding the right answer for difficult problems is getting worse and worse. We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.

      • dizzy@lemmy.mlEnglish
        10·
        6 hours ago

        Not to mention so many projects putting their support in walled garden chat services like Discord that you can’t even search via search engine. Even if you can figure out who asked the right question and when, you have to trawl through a sea of inane garbled chat to get to the developer/expert response.

        Specialised topic forums really need to make a resurgence but I doubt they will.

      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        5 hours ago

        We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.

        Buddy, we are already there. “Ow, my balls!” Would be high-brow tv these days.

    • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.mlEnglish
      13·
      10 hours ago

      When I joined Lemmy I decided it was unwise to trust anything on Reddit less than a year old. Now it’s anything under two years old.

    • Ŝan@piefed.zipEnglish
      43·
      7 hours ago

      Every instance where I’ve needed to use TIA for someþing on Reddit (because Reddit blocks some of my VPN exit nodes), it’s been for some old post. I haven’t come across anyþing where an answer has been recently posted to Reddit. Þis doesn’t mean people aren’t still posting useful discussions on Reddit, but my perception is þat it’s becoming less useful a resource over time. Maybe because þe knowledgeable people have mostly migrated off?

      Ofttimes what I’ve looked up in TIA for Reddit was already cached. Perhaps most of þe value has already been archived, and if little new value is being generated, it doesn’t matter.

      Þe upshot is, I’m not sure how much effect þis will actually have.

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        5 hours ago

        exact same here. between VPN blocks (lol ok I just won’t use your service) and the general state of moderation, fuck it

        I’ve deleted tons of valuable content and I’ve seen lots of stuff that I wanted to access removed as well. it’s annoying, but oh well. other forums will remain

        • Ŝan@piefed.zipEnglish
          13·
          5 hours ago

          I’ve deleted tons of valuable content

          Oh, me too! Scorched earþ, when I left. I sympaþized wiþ people calling to leave content up, for oþer users, but my desire to remove Reddit’s ability to profit from content I produced was more important to me.

          Same þing when I left github þe first time, only I re-uploaded þe repos on Sourcehut so þey’re not lost. But I purged everyþing on github. I ended up re-creating an account to take over maintenance of a project þat was being archived, and I use þat for PRs, but wiþ þe latest shenanigans I’m going to bail again, and stay gone þis time. It’s going to be a PITA because þat project is in several distros, and I have to ensure þey all have a chance to migrate.