Perfectly legal for cars to harvest your texts, call logs::Just because they store messages in a way owners can’t access doesn’t mean it’s a privacy violation, US court rules

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    I think this is another case where the courts cannot proscribe laws. I’m very disappointed in this ruling, but judges only interpret existing laws. The laws need to be updated.

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      That cannot happen until the dinosaurs in power vacate the positions. Hopefully they are not replaced with new corrupt twats. D & R, they are an embarrassment and do not represent the regular citizen.

    • Tranquilizer@lemmy.world
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      Vote with your money. Apparently, people WANT to have their data harvested. Which goes for anything. Just look at how many people are still using Chrome rather than Brave or Firefox. Or Gmail, Gdrive rather than Protonmail/drive.

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        If voting with your money is a valid way for people to collectively decide right and wrong, does that mean people with more money get more votes?

        Does that mean the people with the most money get the most votes?

        If that’s all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what’s right and wrong?

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          If that’s all true, does that mean if someone has way more money than everyone else, they get to decide what’s right and wrong?

          That’s indeed the mechanism that is used to get to the situation we are in.

          Money, based on quantity, is worthless to us filthy commoners. But it’s fundamentally a representation of your time and attention; the only currency that matters.

          Laws will not help to solve anything. Not only is it supposed to represent the same collective you just described as making bad decisions, they are administered by government, which in turn is a mechanism for business to advance.

          Even chickenfeed laws to “better privacy” when corporation like Google gets out of hand won’t help in the long term.

          The ONLY solution is proper education. Not in government schools (which produces mindless consumers), but by spreading this information yourself.

          And nobody said it’s going to be easy when you’re up against the limitless money press big business has access to.

      • ඞmir@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Brave is shady as hell. Use open source firefox builds if possible.

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    Another reason to resort to an older shitbox without these “smart” features. Most of them have a modem always calling back home and even if you remove the fuse giving it power it’ll just put the car in limp mode or throw big error messages and yell at you to see the dealer.

    I grow tired of this technological dystopia

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    The thumbnail shows Apple CarPlay, but in my limited understanding of all this, the car wouldn’t have access to anything in that ecosystem. Situation still sucks though, but anyone know of my understanding is right? I heard it described as the car screen is just a glorified monitor for the phone.

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    Eli5 me pls. The story from the article is based in the land of the free and fake materialism. Does that mean these manufacture cant do that in the rest of the world yet? Or is it exclusively the go to country for testing out ways to further exploit money out of… well, one of the significantly poorest (financial inequality) poputional in the world (cost of living credit debt).

    Edit: fixed grammar, some words changed/added/replace. Was sounding rude and only realized that after rereading much later.

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      This lawsuit was based on a US-only privacy law so it says nothing about what they can do in other countries. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. I assume and hope most other nations actually protect their citizens from stuff like this, but cannot say based on this.

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        If you read the terms and conditions on manufactures websites you’ll notice that in the US based sites they will mention merely being a passenger is consent for harvesting your data, though in other countries terms and conditions these crazy privacy clauses are not present. In the end the hardware is usually the same so I don’t trust that it can’t happen elsewhere but it’d be nice if governments made laws for the good of the people and not for corporate greed. EU seems to be doing things right but others aren’t able to easily follow their lead.