New OLED screen. New APU. And lots of small hardware improvements.

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    Hahaha, they kept trying to convince people again and again that there will NOT be a hardware refresh any time soon. That was only a few months ago.

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      Well yeah, otherwise it will end up like Atari. No sales for the first one because everyone is waiting for the next one.

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        It’s smart. Also, developers have a solid benchmark to set their games to. Console has long had the benefit of a stable hardware set over the course of many years, which makes it easier to develop to the broadest possible market. Skipping incremental APU updates has a benefit of keeping a longer benchmark for game developers hoping to boost sales by targeting the market with handhelds. Valve was pretty clear in their communication in this regard, which is great.

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    What I really like is that they double down on hackabilty by switching to metal torx screws, etc.

    That, and a Linux system are IMO the main selling points of the SteamDeck, compared to any clones from Asus or Lenovo, etc.

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        The screws were metal, but they went into a plastic casing. Now, the metal screws go into metal threading

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        When you buy “wood screws” that doesn’t mean that the screws are made of wood, it means they go into wood.

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    Ok, this has me hyped because it also implies further iterations.

    At not wildly inflating costs. I love my deck, so I can’t wait to see the next iteration :).

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      Jup, love that the price is not just not being increased with upgraded specs, the remaining stock of the old Steam Deck variants is actually being significantly discounted.

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      I think they will not do a new processor for another year or so. They said it is years away.

      With Snapdragon announcing their M2 like arm processor for desktop, I wonder if Steamdeck and these handhelds will start to switch to ARM?

      There is already work being done on x86 to arm translation for Linux.

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        I doubt it. x86_64 might not be efficient, but it has many instructions that aren’t in ARM. Plus you’d lose out on AMD’s GPU.

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          Maybe after we see that new Snapdragon on Windows PC, and enough games run on ARM Windows, then Valve would consider switching chip.

          I don’t see why they would lead the way on that front, in addition to the software compatibility layer between Linux and Windows.

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        While Linux runs fine on ARM like no games do and what I have seen from the Apple ARM laptops playing X86 games isn’t quite close to being there and the Steam Deck is made with gaming in mind so it doesn’t make much sense IMHO. Plus the added complexity of 2 translation layers and the potential issues different games will have there.

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          Check out box86. There are videos of people running various games with it.

          I posted a link in this thread of someone playing world of Warcraft on a pi 4.

          I’m not saying that it’s ready to go today, but in a few years it will be great. Especially if valve develops for it the way they did it it proton.

          I agree that translation layers will slow things down, but I don’t think it will be too terribly slow especially as more powerful chips come out.

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            I’m sure it can run games but it took like half a decade for Proton to be a seemless experience for the majority of games and having 2 translation layers on top of each other sounds like it could take even longer to be on the level Proton already is. Plus there’s the added chance for instability of newly released games. The efficiency from ARM seems like a very minor advantage when looking at those downsides.

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              Both of your downsides are just things you think. Let’s wait a few years and see what the software can do.

              There is a video somewhere of someone using it to play Skyrim on an old android. I don’t think it’s a bad as you believe it to be.

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                Both WoW and Skyrim are over a decade old, I’m more worried about newly released games but yea, of course those issues are what I think, I’m not clearvoyent. I have seen the x86 emulation on apple’s ARM for modern games and I’m basing my reluctance on that but of course I can’t know for sure, I’m just saying the efficiency is probably not worth it.

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                  The same thing could be said about games in the early days of wine and proton. Now most thing run without any trouble.

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      Definitely, every other piece of Valve hardware has been one and done. I figured valve would cut the Steam Deck since other companies have entered the market.

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      Yeah ikr. Feels like they’re still pissed at us for our ACCC taking them to task for not offering refunds here

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        Meanwhile Gaben said he fell in love with New Zealand while he was stranded there during the pandemic. Shame he couldn’t confuse the two.

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        Got myself a steamdeck in russia via aunty from US. Probably best thing to play some games i always wanted to play but was lazy to invest time

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      They’re a bunch of cunts, pretty par for the course when it comes to getting technology here (without having to grayimport it and roll the dice on warranties)

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    I think the real question here is, what will the exhaust vent smell like? Have they improved on the aroma?

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        They’re half kidding but yes, it’s a thing.

        New Steam Deck has a “new electronics” smell coming out of the vents that is stronger than most devices.

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        I own a Steam Deck and I’m not even sure what people are talking about with it, I’ve not really smelled anything coming from mine (which would probably have me more worried than delighted), but apparently it’s a thing amongst some owners.

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    Thinking about finally getting one. The 512GB OLED does look very good…

    I also wonder if they’re ever going to have a non-handheld console (essentially a revamped Steam Machine). I’ve heard a bunch about people building PCs and running Holo ISO on there as a console replacement, might make sense to have an official solution from Valve.

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      I do not think they will. But they said they will release steamOS for install on your own machine. It just runs Linux, so it should work on most desktop hardware without any problems.

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      Only true complaint I might have is that it’s actually fairly heavy and your arms will get tired after playing for too long, especially if you compare it to something like a Switch, but otherwise, I love my Deck, it’s been great. I’ve not had much trouble with most games I throw at it and even moved over my emulation game library on to there. It’s like the holy grail of gaming.

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        Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve found the opposite. Maybe it’s the ergonomics, but despite the weight I’ve found myself playing the Steam Deck for far longer than I ever could play my Switch before it gets uncomfortable.

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          I have to rest it on a pillow if I go for too long while playing in handheld mode. We’ve actually been using it alot more docked to our TV now, so it’s really not even an issue in that setup, it’s only when you’re holding the thing itself. Going back and picking up a Switch feels surreal now though, almost like it’s too light or it would break easily.

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            I’ve never used any other modern handheld but the switch still feels like it could snap in half at any moment.

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          I’ve found the same. Using the Switch in bed with awful posture my hands would cramp after about half an hour. Using the Deck in bed with the same awful posture my arms fall asleep after an hour but I’m still going strong.

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    Some guy on lemmy went on a two paragraph rant on me when I said ‘at this point Ill probably just wait for the next version of the deck’ “oh they’re just rumors and valve would never release another model this early in the decks life and yada yada yada…” Well here we are a month later. Ive been alive long enough to know the next model is ALWAYS right around the corner, because it makes the company money. I wanted a PS4 when it came out but held off then a little while later ps4 pro came out and held off some more, then ps5, now ps5 pro. At this point I don’t even play video games that much anymore so the deck is likely the last ‘console’ ill ever want. I know the game and am one patient motherfucker, if I need to wait a few more years for the deck 2 then by god ill wait.

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      Don’t bother. By the time the deck 2 comes out, in 6 months there will be a Deck 2.5.

      Never buy or enjoy anything! ONLY think about the future

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      I don’t understand this, then the deck 2 will be out and you’ll then wait for the refresh that’s coming out soon then the deck 3? At that rate you’ll never have a console.

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        At some point I have to pull the trigger, and I am the kind of person who uses a device until it dies so I would rather that device be a refined variant of the original. This year was hard for me financially so I just couldn’t eat the $ on a 400-600$ game player no matter how much I really wanted it. I was EXTREMELY tempted to get the deck when it went on sale this summer. Hopefully when 2 rolls out I will be in a better financial spot and its design and specs will be improved over the og

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      Valve in particular is less prone to this kind of thing with their hardware, for example the Steam link, steam controller and Valve Index

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    I waited just under a year for my preorder.

    Yes, I will buy the OLED one, and pass the original to my son.

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    So… more importantly, what’s the story with the HDR support? I know there was something with gamescope supporting it. Is this something that’s finally going to be available on a normal Linux desktop?

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      Work is being done on it by redhat and also the kde team (which is the UI that is on the steam deck). Still early stages, but it’s coming soon. More info here

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    I’m toying with getting a Steam Deck instead of building a gaming PC. I can’t afford both. The Steam Deck looks an even better now option now.

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      A steam deck is definitely not a gaming computer replacement, get a good pc first imo

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        Depends a lot on the type of games you want to play. AAA or competitive FPS probably gaming PC. Older games, casual, indie, etc. SteamDeck is great.

        I have to say that the SteamDeck brought a lot of fun back to gaming for me. Everything’s in one package, it’s portable, I can play docked or lay in bed. I can suspend it and come back whenever.

        I’ve mainly played the Witcher 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4, Noita, GC roms, Disco Elysium, Dishonored, and Stardew Valley. Some of those games I’ve owned for a long time and I never played them until I got the SD.

        But it does make a great streaming device/glorified controller too when I want to run more demanding stuff on my PC.

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          I am currently playing a heavily modded version of Mass Effect Legendary Edition on my SteamDeck, works really well, even Mass Effect 3.

          But I had to install a no-EA-link patch, because EA requires to be online to start the singleplayer game. Which hurts playing it on the go. But with that, great experience.

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        You’re being down voted, but it’s the truth. Depends a lot on the particular computer though. The biggest consideration is personal value of mobile gaming.

        Aside from that, it is damn hard to beat a steam deck in performance at the same price, but if you can stretch to even a bit most gaming desktops will handely out perform one

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        It kinda is tho. You can even connect a monitor, mouse and keyboard to it if you want to.

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        My biggest problem after owning a deck for a year is the controls. If you like to play PC games designed around a mouse and keyboard the deck is just a chore. I struggle to play games on my deck when the controls make playing the game take far longer than on a PC where I can quickly hover my mouse over things or click and drag. Yes it has trackpads but it’s definitely not the same experience.

        That said if it’s a console first game then it usually works pretty well.

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      Depends entirely on what you play. For most people, a standard gaming PC is going to be your best bet, especially if you play FPS titles, but for a select group of people a Steam Deck makes a ton of sense.

      If you play mainly older titles, are on the go frequently, and enjoy a console experience, you can even hook your Deck up to a TV with a docking station, or to a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. It’s super convenient, and is like a gaming laptop/console hybrid, almost like a switch with an entire capable Linux install for productivity.

      For someone in need of something like that, I think a Deck might make more sense!

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      I can only recommend the cheapest Steam Deck, and only if you’re willing to either open it to upgrade the internal storage or rely only on micro SD cards. The Steam Deck gets decent performance on most games but decent is defined as 25-45 fps for 3D games and 60 fps for most sidescrollers.

      I mainly use my Steam Deck to stream games from my PC at home to my cubicle at work, I am still astonished that my upload speed on coax is substantial enough for very low latency streaming. I prefer it over my laptop because the Steam Deck takes up less space on my desk docked or with a case that has a kickstand like dbrand’s Killswitch. Still boggles my mind that this OLED version doesn’t have a kickstand either.