Don’t kink shame
Such a boomer meme.
Fancy bars are optional extravagances. Groceries are fuckin not.
To be fair… the bar is far more fun than the grocery store.
apart from the people saying this isn’t even true… even if it were, one is a necessity and one is an indulgence. it’s one thing to choose to blow some money for something fun and another to have to spend that much every week for mere sustenance.
To be fair 100$ of groceries is like 2 things now.
*Slaps Franzia box
You can fit so many drunk nights in this
I’m the opposite, I go to groceries and buy snacks and stuff and pay 100 without breaking a sweat but If I have a 100 bill in a bar I’m in deep depression for the next 3 weeks.
This is how it should be lol.
I dont get why its not more common to just buy a pack of beers and a bottle and sit in the parc with the lads.
like who wants to spend half a days worth of salary for some meh beer in an overcrowded bar with shitty music.
(I guess the problem is the US has puritan laws against drinking alcohol outside, thankfully we don’t tend to have the in europe).)
I was about to say,
“Cause there is no free third space for you and the lads to hang out” but you seem to have figured it out.In proper capitalism you have to pay for the privilege to exist anywhere
I dont get why its not more common to just buy a pack of beers and a bottle and sit in the parc with the lads.
Because then I’d get arrested for drinking in public.
(I mentioned that at the bottom of my post if you had kept reading)
Nobody with any sense is doing this
Why drink your own alcohol when you can go to a disappointing bar and pay a 400-600% markup?
You’re not just paying for the alcohol. You’re paying for service, a place to hang out, and not having to kick drunk people out of your home.
All very valid - my one is paying to not have to clear up or load a dishwasher with a banging fucking headache the next morning.
It’s an expensive luxury these days, though.
Ah yes, dishes too. You also don’t have to deal with piss on the floor, puke, and all the other potential grossness of drunks
It’s one of the few third places left, and one of the only third places open late when people are out of normal 9 to 5 work
Look how they massacred most coffee shops. 99% of them are for grabbing coffee togo, not for sitting down in.
Isn’t the definiton of a third place that you can go there and just chill, without having to spend money?
The definition I always used is just a place separate from home and work
Given that coffee shops are (were) considered third places the expectations of not needing to spend money isn’t really part of the definition I would say.
yea pretty sure 3rd spaces require no cost
park / library
don’t think coffee shop counts but maybe the idea is low cost?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place
Bars and coffee shops are listed as examples here. The definition used doesn’t include no cost, because otherwise so many places don’t fall under the category
I’m aware and the creator of the term would be opposed but capitalism is good at subsuming all criticism
Oldenburg suggests that beer gardens, main streets, pubs, cafés, coffeehouses, post offices, and other “third places” are the heart of a community’s social vitality and the foundation of a functioning democracy.[6]
The creator of the term himself had pubs and cafes listed as examples of a third place.
He is aware that modern suburbs only offer first and second places with a mandatory car-centric commute between them, and that “public” places have become commercialized to the extent in which one is required to purchase a good or service and is forbidden to “loitering.”[8]
Sure the regulation against loitering obviously takes away the convenience nature of third places, but traditionally these places don’t enforce the need to spend money to exist in the space. It’s also not prohibitively expensive even if you spend money, i.e. its a place where people can conveniently make plans to hang out at.
To your point on capitalism, I’ve already talked about how capitalism are actively destroying cafes as third places. Starbucks as a notorious example has been promoting drive thru so much, taking away actual indoors space, and destroying the social aspect of cafes. Yes capitalism is bad and malicious in this sense, but a place isn’t disqualified as a third place just because you can spend money there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Oldenburg
Edit: better formatting
That’s a wild take. Most people I know don’t go to bars for an efficient alcoholic experience. They go so they can dance and talk with people. Sure its like $7 a beer or $13 a drink, but that pays for clean up you don’t have to do, a place to hang out, and giving people willing to work late money to live. I don’t have any alcohol at home since it’s honestly too cheap and has already caused me problems.
Most people I know don’t go to bars for an efficient alcoholic experience.
To reinforce what you’re saying, bartenders I know tend to only have stories about one-off degeneracy that happens over the course of one night. But liquor store cashiers have stories about their regulars destroying their own lives over the course of months or years.
Oh my God such an incredible hassle to toss my empty can in the recycling. Thank God for bars for doing the clean up. God bless 🙏🙏🙏
Your snark doesn’t really land when you obviously avoided my entire point of bars being a social thing. You wanna stay home and drink cheaper stuff by yourself, go nuts. I’m still gonna go out and make friends and memories.
did you need tweezers to pick that tiny part of the comment to respond to?
Your lonely empty can, yeah.
A T M O S P H E R E
The bar fits many many more people, some of whom you don’t already know!
For watered down shet :<
I think people would rather pay more for entertainment things rather than things required to survive.
Not a bad idea to splurge a bit on something fun every now and then to help with your mental health. Just not too often that it becomes a problem.
Billionaires: fuck you I want gold plating on the 6th level of my new yatch
that’s like 3 drinks now
Look at moneybags over here
How? Are you paying like $15+ a pint or something?
Some of us might be drinking more than 6 pints (6 UK pints is about 7.2 US pints). That’s one way.
Another way is paying more than $15 per drink, yes, after including tax and tip in the US. That’s somewhat common in some places, especially if cocktails are involved. Or higher end wine or spirits. Or even certain craft beers.
Your prices are crazy high. I can often get a round for less than that.
I do live in an expensive area, but didn’t mean to imply that the prices I’m describing are the lowest available. Some people choose to go to more expensive places, or order a more expensive option.
0.5l is over 5 euros these days, you can’t even get 20 beers for a hundred.
Australia no joke a pint is about $14 and a cocktail is about $20.
Yup very common in here… designer drinks can be $25-$50 easily
What’s a designer drink and why would I pay 25 dollars for it
It’s what it sounds like, and you almost certainly wouldn’t.
Oh wow, fuck that.
You drink something else than beer.
Normally drink cider
…yes? Is this not common?
Certainly not here anyway, £5 already feels expensive so if it’s that much I will probably only have 1. Can usually find places that sell you a £2-3 pint.
I want the cheapest I can get one is 10 canadian.
Don’t think I would ever go out at those prices, as it is I drink at home more often than at a pub as it’s at least affordable to do so at home.
At my local bars, I tell them I’m (still) unemployed and then ask for the saddest, cheapest, beer. Usually it’s High Life or a sad little green can I can’t remember the name of. $4 or $5. One of them’s a local enough bar that I know most of the bartenders now, at least.
5 dollars for a bad beer?? I pay 3 euros for a great beer!
Genesee, Rolling Rock, Pilsner Urquell, Dos Equis, Harp, or Heineken?
Unlike groceries, you don’t need to cook alcohol and clean the glasses when you’re done.
I only pay for my first drink usually 😎 bartab plus cover is like no more than 30 most nights. Groceries though you can easily blow 300 on just a weeks worth these days
Well this isn’t a hack is just female privilege
Buying me a drink and shooting your shot is cheaper than a hooker 🤭 I do my part for the economy
