The Pentagon has halted shipments of critical US Patriot air defence systems and other precision weapons to Ukraine after concern that US stockpiles are running too low, prompting alarm in Kyiv.
At the end of last week’s Nato summit, Donald Trump hinted that supplies of Patriot missile interceptors were running down because some had been supplied to Israel, though he suggested he would like to help Kyiv.
After a meeting with Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the US president acknowledged that Ukraine did “want to have the anti-missile systems, as they call the Patriots, and we’re going to see if we can make some available”.
But Trump added: “They’re very hard to get. We need them. We were supplying them to Israel,” implying that supporting Israel in its war with Iran – a priority for the Republican administration – had set back its willingness to help Kyiv.
Naturally people will blame Trump because he doesn’t really care about Ukraine, but this was inevitable when Israel started sucking up all of the USs military aid. Without a massive increase in industrial capacity to build even more weapons, eventually, the stockpiles were always going to run low.
What all this illustrates is that the US lacks industrial capacity for maintaining its hegemony. They’ve run through their existing stocks over the past three years, and they’re unable to manufacture weapons at the rate they’re being consumed. As a result, they have to make hard choices regarding which proxies have more value to them.
We blame Trump because it wasn’t inevitable. He lied to Americans about Gaza. He tore up the nuclear agreement with Iran. A lack of weapons is entirely Trump’s fault.
“Biden I’m working constantly trying to get Israel to do a ceasefire” Constantly sends them weapons
Israel: “Joe Biden has never said the word ceasefire to us”.
Liberals: “Trump is so unique for lying to us about Israel! It’s totally not just a reflection of the systems flaws itself!”
There is a huge difference between Biden selling weapons to Israel and Trump bombing Iran.
Joe Biden would have bombed Iran too. You think he’s fine partaking in a genocide but draws the line at bombing Iran?
The MIC makes these decisions, the presidents role is to sell it to you.
Biden was VP for Obama when Iran signed the nuclear deal. He didn’t bomb Iran when he last president. He absolutely would not have bombed Iran.
Just like Biden didn’t deploy ICE as Gestapo.
GTFO with “both sides are the same.”
You said in another comment.
You mean she could have been an entirely different person? She supported Israel.
How both sides are not the same if both sides are pro genocide?
One didn’t lie about it. Trump lied and got the Muslim vote.
If israel attacked during biden he would definitely support israel attack and save them when they find that the air system munitions was going to be all used
Again the reason Israel attacked is because Trump ripped up the Obama non proliferation agreement.
Take your head out of the sand
Biden planted a bomb in a funeral that killed hundreds of Iranian civilians
??? If you are talking about Kerman, not only did the US not do it, but Biden warned them that they had information there would be a terrorist attack.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Kerman_bombings
Iran didn’t blame the US.
As you liberals love to say… I have a bridge to sell you
Iran didn’t blame the US or even insinuate that the US was involved.
Stop lying.
Biden selling weapons to Israel
*Giving
Stop trying to white wash the old ghoul.
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What’s more important than the nuances of appropriations is the fact that Biden could have stopped giving weapons to a state committing genocide, but didn’t.
Everything else he did or didn’t do with respect to the situation is comparatively minor.
Biden sending weapons to an outpost full of mass murderers who want to kill all nonwhites = biden is their boss and at fault for all their murders
Biden wouldn’t have done anything to stop israel attack on iran either
Israel attacked Iran because Trump ripped up the Obama non proliferation agreement with Iran.
Lying to Americans about Gaza has been the bipartisan policy our entire lives lol
… although, yeah, him tearing up the nuclear deal in his first term and his Arab-Israeli normalization plan to unite Israel and the Gulf states against Iran actually might have set us on this course. The nuclear deal could have potentially brought Iran in-line with US interests in the region, and he blew that up. Normalization, meanwhile, was basically the reason for Operation Al-Aqsa Flood which started this phase of the Israeli genocide against Palestinians (to be clear, the genocide was ongoing before Oct 7th).
In the counter-factual, where Hilary won and the nuclear deal was maintained and Iran was brought in with the rest of the Gulf states in alliance against China, Israel probably would have been able to carry out its ethnic cleansing of Palestine without a war. Instead, thanks to Trump, Israel is going to destroy itself trying to wage war on all of its neighbors and will be broken against the Axis of Resistance.
Why didn’t biden restaured the deal when he was in power?
Well after being betrayed the first time it seems obvious that Iran would require more assurances and a more binding nuclear agreement, and that’s just something the US would never be willing to agree to. Iran would also have problems with the Arab-Israeli normalization plan and, if they had a seat at the table, would have slowed everything down.
Also, Biden is very Zionist. I don’t think we can discount that he might just personally hate Iran for being a obstacle to Israel.
Lying to Americans about Gaza
Kamala lost because she wouldn’t lie!
She still lied. She openly refused to call it a genocide, she said Israel was “defending” itself, and she helped Biden sell the lie that they were working tirelessly for a ceasefire and a two state solution. That’s all lies too.
In what way?
She said she supported Israel. Meanwhile Trump was in battleground states telling Michigan Muslims he supported Gaza.
Nobody genuinely believed that Trump would support Gaza, even the article says he would bring “peace,” which as anyone knows would require the dissolution of the state of Israel and a full, secular, democratic Palestine. Harris lost because she campaigned to the right of Biden, who was already right-wing.
Nobody genuinely believed that Trump would support Gaza,
Muslims believed him and voted for him. That’s what the NPR article I linked was about.
Harris lost because she campaigned to the right of Biden
Which, as I said, is because she didn’t lie.
If you truly believe our stockpiles are low, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
Why wouldn’t they be low after supplying Ukraine and now Israel for so long? They’re finite, as is our capacity to replenish them. There’s been plenty of reporting on the limits of our ability to do so.
Skepticism is warranted, but it could easily be true.
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How bro felt writing ts
[Resources are] finite, as is our capacity to replenish them.
You think this is propaganda?
“Say the line Bart!”
Oops, didn’t see which community I was in
What about to Israel?
crickets as truckload after truckload of weapon drives by headed for a genocide
exactly, they fear they won’t have enough weapons to give to Israel.
Pathetic that the way Israel uses weapons is basically playing a lottery where they randomly decide to murder a starving, defenseless Palestinian like some awful game show and the way Ukraine would use those same weapons is to save lives.
Ah so the lives would get saved by a russian strike on the weapons transport destroying a bunch of “yankee’s civilian killer ™” therefore reducing the stockpile of yankee’s civilian killer ™
Arming Ukraine just prolongs a war that’s clearly lost. That costs more lives than it saves.
Thw same excuse zionists use against palestinians
They think Palestinians should be driven from their homes or exterminated. They don’t care how many Palestinians die, so why would they make that argument? I’ve never heard a zionist say that.
If you care how many Ukranians die, you’d want the war to end sooner rather than later. The peace terms aren’t getting any better, so all their government is doing is getting more of their people killed.
Not all zionists are honest scum. There is the type who say palestinians should resist and they will save palestinians life. They say if hamas never attacked the over 60k dead palestinians would have been saved.
I would like ukranians to stop dying but not by giving up part of their land
There is the type who say palestinians should resist… They say if hamas never attacked
If anyone says this, they don’t mean it, because it’s completely contradictory. They’re lying to you.
I would like ukranians to stop dying but not by giving up part of their land
There’s no future resolution to this war that leaves Ukraine with more land than they have today. Continuing the war just means it will end with less Ukranian land and less Ukranians.
It’s unlike Palestine because Russia is not fighting a war of extermination and is not trying to drive residents from their homes. The people in the parts of pre-war Ukraine that Russia now controls aren’t being massacred or evicted; they are predominantly Russian speakers who had (to be charitable to Ukraine) legitimate grievances with the Ukranian government after the U.S.-backed coup in 2014.
From the Ukrainian perspective, there is actually a benefit to a peace on Russia’s terms: Ukraine keeps more of its land and its people stop dying. There’s nothing to be gained by continuing the war because it isn’t going to turn around. This is again unlike Palestine, where peace on Israeli terms would involve at minimum the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and where western public support for Israel has collapsed.
Not only for the genocide of gaza, but the future invasion they will commit. Soon the US will do what they are doing to Gaza, but to any state or area they deem a “Blue State” or whatever they call the enemy.
who’s stockpile? Israel’s?
after concern that US stockpiles are running too low
Sure they still give more to Isn’treal regardless
If they send arms to Ukraine, what will they have left to put down the US citizenry with, right? We can’t all fit in alligator-adjacent tents. 😶
mirrored my thoughts.
Congress had to lift a ban on arming Nazis in order to send weapons to Ukraine. Fuck’em.
This time next year, Ukraine will be “The” Ukraine again. Thousands will be murdered. And in a hundred years, the history books will put the blame squarely on the Incredible Bulk.
the history books will put the blame squarely on the Incredible Bulk.
Oh God, I certainly hope we don’t have annoying reddit liberals writing our history books a hundred years from now
You have got to get better at naming these burners I’m serious
