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This generation in Western Europe is totally against Russia. It is necessary to uproot them in their entirety.
Why do you think this happened? This guy has no idea.
Love me or I shoot
The shooting will continue until the love improves
Like grandpa said! RATHER DEAD THAN RED!
Red? What’s that got to do with this?
Putler has a nostalgia problem wanting to return the soviet union (a nazi shithole)
Red is synonymous with commie in most ex-soviet states. In Poland communism is viewed exactly the same as nazism. Maybe even worse because at least Germans apologized.
When they admit their war crimes we should believe them.
No different then when some SS officers admitted to what they did to the “undesirables” and that they deserved it, and would do it again.
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Russia is a diseased country that’s trying to spread its rot. Why they aren’t dealt with more sternly is curious to me
because invading another country usually involves mass civilian deaths and should be avoided as a rule
Nobody wants to invade Russia. Whats absurd is that we sit around and let them invade other countries. I understand the desire to avoid escalation but if all other avenues fail there should be a willingness among free nations to boot them out swiftly and efficiently and make it clear that their dreams of empire building are done and it’s time to get their house in order instead of distracting themselves with destroying others.
there is currently an extensive international effort to not let them invade other countries
Which is a nice change to their usual invasions of other countries.
Of course if that could happen if anyone were to invade other countries, it would be nice.
It’s also gone hilariously bad for those who tried in the past
Russia is incoveniently large.
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It’s sad to witness the animosity towards Russia. The responsibility lies with Putin and those who actively support him - they seized power and manipulated the populace, and commit war crimes. Not all Russians do that. Despite his suppression of independent media and the severe penalties, including up to 15 years of imprisonment, for engaging in not only “anti-war” but even “pro-peace” protests, a significant number of people continue to oppose the war.
Putin’s narrative revolves around the notion that “in the West, they harbor hatred towards us, attempting to dismantle us.” By uttering “fuck Russia,” unwittingly or not, you’re just endorsing Putin and his propaganda. Please don’t do that. Instead, say “fuck Putin”.
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True, but propagandists don’t care. They pick facts that support their view and discard ones that oppose it. So, for everyone who says “FUCK RUSSIA,” they answer with “SEE, SEE, WE ARE RIGHT, WE SHOULD RESIST AND FIGHT BACK.” They will just pull your words out of context.
So, if you are a responsible citizen, I ask you not to spread hatred towards our country, but to support it on the way to sanity, normality, and democracy. Please spread hatred towards propagandists, war criminals, and usurpers instead.
They don’t need context, if people weren’t saying fuck Russia they would just make shit up. Fuck off and stop trying to protect their sad wittle feewings
I’m not protecting someone’s feelings, at least not intentionally. I’m just trying to stop hatred towards people based on their nationality. Care to take a guess who historically propagated such nationalistic hatred?
Russian here. Just to clarify, most of us won’t get upset if someone says “Fuck Russia”, as we understand that you mean “Fuck the Russian state” - lots of us been saying the same for a long time, as, believe it or not, living in an authoritarian state ain’t fun.
The line gets crossed when people say “Fuck Russians”, call for oppressive measure against Russian nationals, celebrate their deaths or even outright attack them. That’s fucked up.
It would be nice if it was just Putin. And it’s true that lots of Russians are opposed to the war. It’s even probably true that lots of them are as apolitical as they can be, just doing whatever they have to do to survive day by day.
But there are lots of Russians who support him. Even outside of Russia. There is, in fact, a large portion of the population that approves of him, despite the invasion into Ukraine. A lot of it is retired people, of course, but also shit-tons of people who listen mainly to Russian news sources, and therefore believe Putin’s propaganda.
Even if Putin were assassinated the next day, his replacement wouldn’t be much better. Hopefully they’d pull out of Ukraine, but they would likely be just as chauvinist and nationalist as Putin. Russia’s political spectrum is, unfortunately, very close to “50 shades of nationalism”, to the point where even Navalny had to curry favor with them to build up sufficient support. And nationalists (and fascists) tend to do stupid shit like invading neighboring countries.
I would agree that “fuck Russians” is going a step too far. But if Russia’s international reputation is shit right now, it’s no one’s fault but Putin’s, and it is unfortunately well-deserved. And, whether we like it or not, when you say “I’m from [country]”, that country’s reputation will affect how people see you. So if individual Russians around the world are facing stigma, that’s really unfortunate, but it’s the inevitable outcome of shit like this. It’s nothing new — after WWII, Germans had to deal with the exact same shit.
My intention was not to upset you, but rather to offer a perspective that looks beyond a blanket condemnation of a whole country. I believe in addressing issues by holding those in power accountable for their actions while recognizing that not all individuals within a nation support or approve those actions.
If it’s not Russia, it’s Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc. etc. etc.
The only thing our people love more than war is being told they’re right when their preferred nightly news program gives them excuses for why our country is spending all of our money on war.
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Sometimes I do think Patton wasn’t an egotistical nutter after all.
Churchill argued at length that Russia had to be next after Germany fell. He probably was onto something there.
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Also, the popularity of the Communist Parties in Europe at the time would probably have made such a confrontation quite awkward.
1917 the US and other Allies tried to intervene in the Russian Civil War on the side of the White Army.
It seems like something that Putin would want.
Uff… as much as I think Ukraine is something of a corrupt western puppet, Russia is still, well, Russia. Not a great, humanitarian society.
Murdering POWs is an inherent part of communism
Nothing about the Russo-Ukraine war has anything to do with communism.
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Is the torture that goes on in the USA’s Guantanamo Bay facility “an inherent part of capitalism”?
