youtube getting more aggressive… i’ve got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up

  • Canopyflyer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    My family watches several Youtube channels on the main HTPC. It had Chrome for them to use, as that is what the kids and my wife are familiar with from school/ work. Then this BS started. I use Firefox on my personal PC and have yet to have a problem.

    So I dumped Chrome off of the HTPC.

    It would be amusing if Chrome lost a ton of market share to Firefox and other browsers.

  • SneakyWeasel@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Sharing this: don’t know why this works, but my dad found refreshing the cache in UBlock makes this thing finally shut the fuck up.

    • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      It updates Ublocks filters. They are updating those as YouTube changes things. Ublock has worked flawlessly on firefox YouTube for me so far. I have not even seen the popup once.

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      Plus you should add Anti-adblock killer by Reek, a combination of those 2 makes the entire problem go away… for now. I would also whitelist youtube in other addons like disconnect as those can also trigger youtubes immune response.

      • Frellwit@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Anti-adblock killer by Reek

        That thing is unmaintained and have not been updated for over 7 years. It will do absolutely nothing.

        If you have issues with YouTube: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/about/sticky?num=2

        I have to add some things though:

        1. Read the thread thoroughly, you may have missed a step or 2, or may have misunderstood something. There’s a lot of noise in the replies. Filter maintainers can’t always give support or keep up with the noise. Being pushy, unfriendly, or replying to the thread without doing every step will not fix the problem for you. If you have technical knowledge, consider contributing that knowledge.
        2. Do not add random filters, scripts, extensions from random users. If you don’t understand what you’re doing you may add something that may work against you instead of for you, or in worse cases add something malicious.
        3. YouTube seems to update their anti-ab script at least twice a day more or less. So just: Click 🛡️ uBO’s icon > the ⚙ Dashboard button > the Filter lists pane > the 🕘 clock icon at the end of the uBlock filters – Quick fixes list > the 🔃 Update now button. Do NOT click purge all caches and update now, that will only add more pressure to the filter hosts.
        4. If there’s a mismatch between the filter fixes and YouTube’s latest fixes, just wait, watch the video logged out, or use an alternative front-end like piped, invidious, or whatever.
        • KneeTitts@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Anti-adblock killer

          Wow I didnt know it was unmaintained, I see that now. Well something I did actually worked because Im currently not getting any warnings from youtube

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    1 year ago

    Honestly, if YouTube offered a $5 adfree video plan I’d pay for it. It’s not worth $14/month in my opinion

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      1 year ago

      That’s the YouTube Premium Lite plan that they killed off less than a month ago.

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      Youtube would profit off of $2 a month the fact that they need to charge 14 is just greed

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      Fuck that shit. They’d just increase it gradually until it hit 80$. They also don’t care about the user experience playing shit ads that are some times horrific (like the recent Israel propaganda ads with war, or 1 hr + ads, or salacious ads). They also inject the ads at the worst possible spots. They should give creators that control but fuck them.

      Don’t give Youtube or Google that option. This is what they want. They are ruining the internet further.

    • regbin_@lemmy.world
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      That’s way too expensive. I guess regional pricing did me good because here it costs an equivalent of $3.75 (RM 17.90). That much for Premium + Music ain’t no way I’m not taking it.

      Spotify costs $3.35 (RM 15.90).

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      I cancelled Spotify and use YouTube for music and videos now so it’s worth $14 to me. Just loaded all my Spotify playlists into YTM. Interface isn’t as good as other music apps, but it has a pretty insane catalog, especially for stuff like remixes and bootlegs

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      I’d pay €1 a month. Max. If only 50 million people did the same, they’d make 50 million per month. Must be more than they make now from ads…

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      Not to mention, ads make so much less per user. And if you started to click on most of them they will demonetize the content creator for it.
      So those 14 bucks / per user is like the user was thousand people watching hundreds of videos roughly speaking.

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    Ublock Origin Settings - Clear Cache - Update - Refresh Youtube

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      It’s a matter of who gets tired quicker at this point, YouTube, ublock maintainers, or users. We’re on the losing side, and alternative front ends sound like the “we’re cornered” solution. I imagine Google won’t take long to break them as well.

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        the engineers won’t get tired, they are paid not to. Not to say that people shouldn’t try to evade it. This is super predatory but understandable cause of its income model.

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            Because simply by going to the website, Google is automatically making money off of you due to how intrusively they spy on your behavior 24/7 (unless you’re in the very small minority that takes extensive effort to stay private online and on your phone). Google is showing me ads all the fucking time, and now they want to force even more ads every 5 minutes or less on YouTube videos (ads on YT now are far more intrusive and frequent than even 5 years ago). For them to say, “You either consume even more targeted ads or we’re banning you,” is some weird quasi-hostage level shit.

            “But how can Google pay for YouTube if you’re blocking ads!?!?” Dude, YouTube makes hundreds of millions in PROFIT every year, they’re fine if some ads during videos are missed. Like I said, simply going to their website makes them money because they harvest data across all of their dozens of platforms and services. Don’t suck Google’s dick, they are not your friend. YouTube just has a monopoly on user created videos. If there were a viable alternative, I’d happily jump to that in a heartbeat and even pay like $5/mo for it.

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              I am sorry, who is forcing you to watch YouTube videos?

              . If there were a viable alternative, I’d happily jump to that in a heartbeat and even pay like $5/mo for it.

              Floatplane, Nebula/curiositystream, patreons of creators.

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                You realize how much information is on YouTube, right? We have to use it at work all the time when our safety officer does their monthly trainings, among other things. YouTube is ubiquitous to every day life, don’t act like anything even remotely compares in terms of video content.

                And yes, I do use patreon for some creators but to even pretend it’s comparable to the entirety of YouTube is ridiculous. Floatplane is promising but is very new. Never heard of Nebula, guessing it is similarly new or limited.

      • aceshigh@lemmy.world
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        how much money do you think yt is losing to ubo, and how much does it cost for yt to keep updating the code? financially it may not be worth it.

    • OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world
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      Freetube has been a great alternative for me. While it still doesn’t have tabs, I just figured out earlier today that middle clicking opens the link or video to a new window.

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      Developer singlehandedly overthrowing corporation’s decisions is my type of shit

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      It doesn’t. This is being rolled out to all users. Eventually you will have to clear cash every time you want to watch YouTube with Ublock Origin.

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        Good point! Clearing cache on exit is my firefox’ default setting. Do recommend!

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      Do you think running YouTube is free?

      Either the advertisers pay for it, or you do. That’s the deal.

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            That’s a good question.

            There’s actually more value in metadata than just for advertising, such as scientific and general market research. And even just talking about ads, it’s still useful for both targeted and non-targeted ads and is not limited to the YouTube advertising space.

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        Do you think my data and internet connection is free? Either I give some money, and hope that youtube doesn’t insert ads in the premium version of youtube or I give up my data and download obnoxious and potentially harmful ads.

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    I knew Google would get around to killing YouTube sooner or later: Looks like the slow death has begun.

    Like all things Google that people like: It must die, Google will not allow it to live.

    Coming to you in 2025: GoogleTube, brought to you by Alphabet!

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      YouTube ensuring it gets ad revenue is the exact opposite of killing it.

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        People who use ad blockers aren’t the type of people to click the ads. We’re doing a Google a service by improving conversion statistics.

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    What could come of people clicking on the “Report issue” option and sending back tons of false reports claiming that they have gotten the pop-up message despite not using an ad-blocker?

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      i gave feedback that basically said “fuck you. fuck this. this is exactly how you generate bad will.”

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        It asked me to include a screenshot of the page and highlight areas of the image to draw attention to them, so I sent a screenshot similar to the one in this post and highlighted every use of the word “ads”. I also sardonically lauded false praise of the site and its advertisements in the written reply.

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    I see nothing wrong with Google wanting to make money on YouTube, and I actually own YouTube Premium myself.

    But they should really fix YouTube experience, if you don’t use subscriptions box, your main page will be filled with click-baity low-effort videos and that really sucks. There are also other issues as well.

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      That is true. I hate Shorts and have to block it via uBlock filters. Also, I hate their mobile app. I can’t select a precise app wide video quality. There are only two options: High and Low in the settings. I need to go to Advanced settings upon playing each video to manually set a precise video quality, say 720p. This experience is sub par and below what NewPipe used to provide. I mainly use YouTube Music as a service but they bundle YouTube Premium for little onto it.

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    I just clear the YT sites’ cookies, relog in and it disappears. I use AdNauseam and uBlock Origin and still got this.

    If they weren’t so intrusive with the garbage ads (I hate publicity, over 95% of it is condescending and/or lies), I wouldn’t mind seeing an ad in the beggining, or even also an additional in the middle of a long video, but getting two unskippable ads in the beggining and one every 5 mins or less is abusive. So fuck you Google.

    Going to install a local instance of Piped or Invidious.